Date from Yesterday - Women are getting worse!

[Bokanovsky]

I haven't responded... but if I were going to it would probably be with a diss lol

Ask her if she went back to the restaurant to pay what she owes them.

 

[visions]

For the sake of speculation and discussion, what do you guys think of a response like this:

"You fail to meet my standards. Moving on."

i can see this devastating her.

a message to this effect, or silence, would be a big glow to her
ego.

but the key is to not come across as angry as some of the posters have mentioned. one can play it safe by not responding.

 

[visions]

I'd say, "Not a problem," "No big deal," or my favorite: "Hey, it is what it is." Totally vague, noncommittal replies. And see where she goes from there. She might just want to smooth things over as she exits your life, or she may want to continue with you. If she continues the conversation you could still turn this into a lay because you will have HAND Major HAND

i strongly disagree with your post. doing what you recommend will reinforce her poor behavior and weaken your inner strength.

yes, by continuing contact, you keep open the possibility of a lay occurring, but 1) i don't believe the odds of a lay are significant 2) you then deal with the issues i mentioned earlier.



how has your suggestion worked out for you in the past?

 

[Mr_Stinky]

You know I actually thought of this after the fact.... the one silver lining is that she picked this place as she frequents it often.. maybe next time she goes in the bartender will remember her...

I did send her a text afterwards "lol I can see why you are close to 40 and still single"

Probably unnecessary but one of my trademarks

I love how they expect you to pay JUST for the privilege of their company

 

[Zarky]

how has your suggestion worked out for you in the past?

Quite well. I've never been in that exact situation, but I've had women storm out on me before and every single one who's contacted me afterward has slept with me on our first "date" after reconciliation.

Ray Gordon used to call these "Returning Foxes." ( http://cdn.preterhuman.net/texts/sex/Technique/Seduction/seductionlibrary/perfect11.html ) You have extreme power when they come back. It's common knowledge and I'm surprised more posters in this thread have no idea about this.

I don't know why you'd blow her off like a butthurt schoolboy. I rarely get upset by women's actions, I merely try to turn them into lays. If you find yourself "putting women in their place" rather than f*cking them, I think you're missing the point. And the point is that for most women there are two types of people: The guys who f*ck them, and everyone else. Putting a woman in her place is pointless, because if you're not f*cking her, she won't give a sh*t about what you think. The only guy who can put a woman in her place is the guy who's already f*cking her.

In fact, now that I think about it, I rarely have major emotional reactions to anything women do. To me it's all a game. I don't take them seriously, and I don't take myself seriously. I don't take their actions seriously, I don't take what they say seriously, and I'm certainly not upset when they storm out or yell or cry. I think in a purely strategic way, usually devoid of emotion. And what I think is, "How can I turn this situation into getting more p*ssy."

If you want to bang lots of women, I suggest you do the same.

 

[zinc4]

I'd say, "Not a problem," "No big deal," or my favorite: "Hey, it is what it is." Totally vague, noncommittal replies. And see where she goes from there. She might just want to smooth things over as she exits your life, or she may want to continue with you. If she continues the conversation you could still turn this into a lay because you will have HAND Major HAND

I agree that he could turn it into a lay...the question is does he still want to...i personally would be finished with her..too much drama and trouble already for a 37 year old cougar...

 

[visions]

Quite well. I've never been in that exact situation, but I've had women storm out on me before and every single one who's contacted me afterward has slept with me on our first "date" after reconciliation.

Ray Gordon used to call these "Returning Foxes." ( http://cdn.preterhuman.net/texts/sex/Technique/Seduction/seductionlibrary/perfect11.html ) You have extreme power when they come back. It's common knowledge and I'm surprised more posters in this thread have no idea about this.

I don't know why you'd blow her off like a butthurt schoolboy. I rarely get upset by women's actions, I merely try to turn them into lays. If you find yourself "putting women in their place" rather than f*cking them, I think you're missing the point. And the point is that for most women there are two types of people: The guys who f*ck them, and everyone else. Putting a woman in her place is pointless, because if you're not f*cking her, she won't give a sh*t about what you think. The only guy who can put a woman in her place is the guy who's already f*cking her.

In fact, now that I think about it, I rarely have major emotional reactions to anything women do. To me it's all a game. I don't take them seriously, and I don't take myself seriously. I don't take their actions seriously, I don't take what they say seriously, and I'm certainly not upset when they storm out or yell or cry. I think in a purely strategic way, usually devoid of emotion. And what I think is, "How can I turn this situation into getting more p*ssy."

If you want to bang lots of women, I suggest you do the same.

i see some validity in your argument. i think there needs to be more clarification from the various posters (including myself).

i for one, would next her if i was seeking something serious. that i wouldn't think twice about.

as far as strictly attempting to maximize lays- i responded to this earlier by stating 1) the probability of a resulting lay is insignificant 2)it's bad for inner game.
now let me expand on that. these two points have not been an issue for you, which is good. however, i feel many men, especially new students of the game, have problems (both fixable and chronic) with their inner game, and not walking away from a disrespectful female may stump their growth.
even for the seasoned dj, it's a good esteem builder (which makes you more attractive to women) to go nc even if you miss the possible lay.

i just read that reyaj sent her the text "i see why you're almost 40 and still single" after his incident. this text, combined with his refusal to pay for her, was a job well-done in demonstrating his self-worth to that female. this is why she may be coming back (the "returning fox" according to your link).
the other possibility is that she wants validation before walking away for good.

if you want to maximize lays, you would hope she is the returning fox and act accordingly.

but if she's just coming back to get validation before walking away-you get the short end of the stick.

this is what it comes down to-she has two possible desires. and how one wants to act upon it is up to them.


now that being said, i am less strict on an earlier post saying to go nc. and here's why: i just realized reyaj already sent her a punishing text. this, combined with his steadfast refusal to pay for her, established himself as the prize. and secondly, if i responded to her, i would make her chase me

 

[Bokanovsky]

I don't know why you'd blow her off like a butthurt schoolboy. I rarely get upset by women's actions, I merely try to turn them into lays. If you find yourself "putting women in their place" rather than f*cking them, I think you're missing the point. And the point is that for most women there are two types of people: The guys who f*ck them, and everyone else.

I think you are the one who's missing the point. Tolerating entitled, sh*tty attitude for the sake of getting laid is the textbook definition of betaism. This is why you will never graduate from banging HB4-5 POF shanks.

A guy who goes NC after a woman disrespects him is not acting "butthurt". He is simply exercising discretion. Only desperate chumps with no options put up with c*nty females. Men with options next. That's the very purpose of having options - so you could next the less desirable ones.

 

[Zarky]

]thanks, visions, for your thoughtful and well-reasoned comment. Bokanovski could learn something from you.

Tolerating entitled, sh*tty attitude for the sake of getting laid is the textbook definition of betaism. This is why you will never graduate from banging HB4-5 POF shanks.]

aw boky, did that little personal attack make you feel better about your inferiority? Because what you can't seem to fathom is that I don't have to "tolerate" any "sh*tty" behavior. Women's behavior literally has no emotional impact on me whatsoever. Or at least no lasting impact. That's what a true beta such as yourself will never be able to understand.

So if a woman storms out on me and then later calls me up to apologize, I'll graciously let her come over that night and suck my d*ck. Whereas you'll "put her in her place" and then spend the night beating off to youporn with tears streaming down your face.

See the difference? I actually get p*ssy.

 

[TillTheEndOfTime]

]thanks, visions, for your thoughtful and well-reasoned comment. Bokanovski could learn something from you.



aw boky, did that little personal attack make you feel better about your inferiority? Because what you can't seem to fathom is that I don't have to "tolerate" any "sh*tty" behavior. Women's behavior literally has no emotional impact on me whatsoever. Or at least no lasting impact. That's what a true beta such as yourself will never be able to understand.

So if a woman storms out on me and then later calls me up to apologize, I'll graciously let her come over that night and suck my d*ck. Whereas you'll "put her in her place" and then spend the night beating off to youporn with tears streaming down your face.

See the difference? I actually get p*ssy.

You still don't understand. She's not really "apologizing". She's trying to seek closure on HER terms. She is not at all interested in him. She probably thinks she deserves an A&F jeans model right off their flyer.

He is refusing to give her that closure because it does him no good and nothing is going to come of it except helping her own ego.

 

[JohnChops]

a simple and very effective response..."fvck off" seriously, try it

If I were in this situation i would say, no response. No point in going back to someone who did you wrong. Im finding that no response is sometimes a killer response. Makes them wonder what they did wrong and it cuts deeper than a neutral response.

 

[Reyaj]

I decided to respond today just for ****s and giggles.. I responded with this

"We mutually decided to meet and you weren't my type. Not sure why you think I'd pay for you..."

 

[Tiguere]

You werent/arent my type = female language.. We men dont use such words. We convey them through actions but NEVER ORALLY/TEXT

 

[Reyaj]

I like my response its about the 2nd part of it as my actions already made this clear.. I just want to hear her ridiculous justification lol

 

[TillTheEndOfTime]

Ugh.

She will read butthurt all over this.


Sigh.

You say that like it matters what she thinks.

 

[SirFratserlot]

Idk why he would care if he doesnt plan on ever seeing her again.

 

[BeDJ]

Ugh.

She will read butthurt all over this.


Sigh.

Scarcity mindset deployed.

 

[Wilko]

Bugger me, it's one interaction, it doesn't matter if he does or doesn't knock it out of the park. Why the need to run everything through the DJ filter - if you insist on doing that all the time, who are you, what are you? Ugh, all this aloof, calculated indifference that gets promoted, it ain't human. Why should we constantly self-censor our words and our actions, it's just a woman! Blow up on this one, play it by the numbers on the next one, do the experiment, learn, have fun.

Another thing to be mindful of fellas. When a member brings a situation to the attention of the forum it's because it's unusual, out of the ordinary, interesting. Otherwise, why bother? No need to go inferring all sorts of deficiencies in someone's game based on one incident - there's probably a buttload of other totally mundane interactions straight out of the playbook that we're not privy to.

 

[switch]

the AFC is strong in this thread

 

[SirFratserlot]

My point is that by replying he has chosen to "play her game" over self-respect.


Like all choices in life, when you go down the wrong path it is often self-reinforcing.

The real problem with most men, is the lack of self-discipline. That is it. Seriously.

You pick the best path and you stay with it.

Men who cannot have the self-discipline when it comes to retaining self-respect will NEVER do well with women, or in any place in life. If one cannot retain self-discipline in a situation where replying only makes you look bad, then there is just too little raw material to work with in creating a "DJ".

It is just frustrating watching man after man after man fall into this trap of feeling like they have to make weak comments like this one. Especially when all it serves is to justify her original thought in the first place. That he is unworthy and in this case "feeling rejected".

Utterly pointless, puts the betaness on full display, and just another failure on self-discipline.

Some people need a simple **** you response. Whats up with americans and their passively aggressive behavior.