"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Dancing in Bars/Clubs

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So I was out last night, having a great time dancing with some girls (pivots) and going nuts over the music. I told myself to be the life of the party and have fun, and it was great. Unfortunately, I was hesitant to dance with new girls. There were a TON of creepy dudes just watching, and I was one of few guys that was just having an awesome time dancing alone/near my pivots.

Now I was hoping someone could give me advice on "approaching" girls in this situation. Girls are almost always in pairs, usually one HB and one UG.

How do you get to dancing with the HB?

Say the girl sees that you're fun and like to dance. How do you open when you can't really hear each other? Just a hand on her hip and then gauge her reaction?

I feel like I would be thrown into the "creepy" category if I spot a hottie who is dancing/having as much fun as me, and is dancing near me, and I just start dancing with her.
 
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Sofomore said:
I feel like I would be thrown into the "creepy" category if I spot a hottie who is dancing/having as much fun as me, and is dancing near me, and I just start dancing with her.

and you dont feel creepy dancing alone or around a group of other men? :whistle:
 

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J Roc said:
and you dont feel creepy dancing alone or around a group of other men? :whistle:
Not at all. When I'm dancing I am just getting down to the music, not caring if I'm alone. Where did you get the "around a group of other men" from? I am talking about situations where girls are dancing in groups next to me.

What I am asking is how do you "approach" these girls without being thrown into the "just another guy trying to dance with me" category.

Thanks for the....serious....response. :rolleyes:
 

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J Roc said:
and you dont feel creepy dancing alone or around a group of other men? :whistle:
Thumbs down, J Roc.


OP: There is absolutely nothing wrong with dancing by yourself or near women. In fact, it is the dudes who are just having fun on the dance floor with or without women, who are the ones attracting women. Let me tell you a brief story. I used to be terrified of clubs and by dancing on my own & working out I gained confident & danced on my own at clubs. I am very selective about who who I have sex with. However, I have kissed more women than I can count :whistle:. Take a look at my story (scroll down until you find Robyn923b). If I made it, you can do it too.

Being the life of the party pumps you up and gets your ready for success. I suggests enjoying yourself like you are already doing and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. When you see an attractive girl, step up to her & tell her you two are having a competition (if she's dancing). Start with a cool move & then tell her to beat it. Once she does, reply with a silly move; they will love you for being fun. As for dancing with and Hb who is with a UG: dance with both. In fact, make the UG your target at the beginning while slightly engaging the HB. The UG is the one most likely to c0ckblock you, so you must defuse her first. Once you are in with her, shift your attention gradually to the HB. Your goal is to get both to dance comfortably with you. However, you must move pretty fast so that you don't have some other dude trying to steal your HB, in which case, you should AMOG the guy & pull her because you're an alpha. If she ISN'T dancing, just go up to her confidently, grab her hand taking the lead and say "Hey, I'm Sofomore. Come here and dance with me(with a smirk)." You can pull high 9's doing this.

Here are some tips by Tyler Durden from RSD that will really help you: Tips part 1 Tips part 2 PM me if you have questions/comments. Keep up the good work, man :cool:.

PS: +1 Rep. for starting the Bootcamp. I'm in.

-Rob
 
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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Go up behind them and put a hand on their hip as to pull them. They will look at you and if she likes what she sees she will dance with you.
 
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