"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
sketchy
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Rayneveres
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
sketchy
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what state are you from? in new york city women love guys that can dance salsa. when they play it at the club you cant fist pump, and pulling out a girl to dance salsa is a great opener as many guys cant or are scared to look like an idiot, women love to dance it.rocksoff said:
rushing dude 123
Master Don Juan
1. you can increase kino very easily
2. you got a easy subject to run off in a conversation
3. there is a lot more single women there than there is guys and they will all be fighting for you as a partner
4. good rapport is usually built with saying very little and you can usually number close quite easy after its over
5. they see you with a guy who actually wants to improve himself and has something going on his life, rather than being some desperate guy on the hunt who revolves his life around women rather than the other way around.
I went to swing classes and from my experience is actually one of the easiest succesful ways to meet women in my opinion. I think salsa will be better for ya though bro, those latina chicas may be interesting.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Why would you take classes on how to dance when nobody dances now a days? What you see in a club is not dancing (unless it's a latin/country club). You don't need to take dancing lessons to go to a club, stand in the dance floor and start grinding with some sloot to the beat of rap/house music. I don't know how to dance but I used to go to the club every weekend and would end up grinding with some babes, no lessons needed. Anybody can do the 2 step or whatever you call it.
Instead of wanting to take dance classes to get girls why don't you take classes in something manly? Take boxing lessons for example. You not only get stronger and get good exercise but you learn to protect yourself and others. Women want guys that are strong and that they get a feeling of being protected with.
You will definitely impress girls at clubs if you can dance well after having taken lessons but the thing is it really isn't necessary to do it.
Mistic
Senior Don Juan
To be a good salsa dancer as a guy, you need to know how to lead. It is a rough kind of forceful dance, and it is latin, so you can be certain that even if it looks kinda gay, there is nothing unmanly about salsa. I've spent a lot of time in latin countries, so I know the basics. If you are ever south of the border and want to pick up in the clubs, you better know salsa.
SandHawk
Master Don Juan
Later I started dancing salsa and I recently returned to dancing ballroom/latin again. Trust me, all the girls think I'm so awfully gay that they do nothing but flirt me. I've made out with 2 girls from my dance classes in the first 3 months of the classes and recently I've been having quite some good rapport with 2 others. During the salsa classes I banged 1 chick but that's because the group mainly consisted of girls over 30.
Dance classes *ARE* a good way to learn new girls, but as said by others, do it to learn to dance. You can use your moves on the dance floor in a club, or just show girls how to dance a bit. It's great kino, easy to escalate and collecting numbers *IS* easy as hell. I got some pretty slick dancing moves I can use on the dance floor, and even if none of the girls are interesting, you can hook up with them, take em to a club and do a bit of dirty dancing with em. Social proof that will pull outsider girls into your group pretty quickly, and with a wing you can isolate them.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.