So there's this girl I sit next to in my human resources class at my college and she's really cute. The problem is that sitting on the other side of her is her mopey, whiney, just generally b*tchy friend. I've talked to the cute girl a couple times in class and also on facebook. I eventually got her number over facebook (I know I know) and texted back a forth a little bit. My question is there any way to ask her out in spite of her friend? The only time I see her is in class so she's with her friend. The other thing is that the first time I texted her she responded a couple hours later and apologized because she didn't have her phone on her. Personally I thought it was a bit odd to apologize for something like that but what do you think? Thanks for your responses!! You guys don't get enough credit for helping out all the people on the boards!!
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
cute girl with loser female friend
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"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
It seems a bit odd because unfortunately, good manners and being considerate of others is becoming more and more of a rarity. Sounds like she might be a nice girl... and she wants to talk to you.sh8716 said:
When you talk to her, just be as upbeat and happy as you can. She'll soon see what a downer her friend is and start getting tired of her. Then you're ready for the kill
Thanks for the response! Yeah it was odd that she apologized so I didn't know if she thought I was upset or what. I guess my main problem is that her friend is always around when I see her and I just have a problem asking this girl out when her downer friend is there. Are there any ideas how to fix this or should I just man up and do it? If I just ask her out when the friend is there am I setting up for failure?
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
youngmack
Master Don Juan
Call her and ask her bruh
Just do it. The worst that happens is she says no, and you go about your day doing your own thing.
However I agree with youngmack, if you can't ask her out in class because of her friend, just hit her up on her phone one evening.
I get that you don't want to be rejected, but she sounds pretty sound, I find it's difficult to get an apology out of a girl, let alone an apology for something she doesn't even have to apologise for. To me that's a green light.
Also, you're not asking the ***** friend out, so what does it really matter if she doesn't like you.
Gunner
However I agree with youngmack, if you can't ask her out in class because of her friend, just hit her up on her phone one evening.
I get that you don't want to be rejected, but she sounds pretty sound, I find it's difficult to get an apology out of a girl, let alone an apology for something she doesn't even have to apologise for. To me that's a green light.
Also, you're not asking the ***** friend out, so what does it really matter if she doesn't like you.
Gunner
VladPatton
Master Don Juan
You got her number, just text it away, man. Mention something about the class and throw in a "hey, let's grab coffee on xxxxday!" See what happens. If she says no, act like nothing happened when you see her in class next. If she brings her boring friend you're fücked, Kimosabe! She's not interested in dating.
Good luck.
Good luck.
hey everybody so I was texting this girl today and we were talking about class and I throw in " We should go out for drinks sometime next week, what do you say?" and I get back "Haha yeah maybe sometime." What are your thoughts on this everyone? Green light? Thanks!
VladPatton
Master Don Juan
Not really a green light. She sort of blew you off. Wait a week or so and ask again. If she's not enthusiastic, doesn't offer a counteroffer, then she's not interested. Just be friendly afterwards as if nothing happened while you Next her.
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Mike32ct
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I agree with everything Vlad said.
Well I texted her back and basically said what does you schedule look like next week? She responds back with the "Well I would have to let you know sometime I'm pretty busy with school and all right now etc etc" I responded back and said basically "Well check your schedule and let me know" I'm not actually expecting a response at this point so we'll see. On the one hand she is a senior in college so I can see how she's busy (I'm a junior) but on the other hand if these forums have taught me anything it's that women who like you will make time to be with you. Thinking about just nexting her and moving on. Thoughts?
Alright guys so here's an update on my situation: I stopped texting her and she texts me back a couple days later and basically says "Hey sorry I forgot to text you but this week won't work. Sorry!! But thanks for asking." Ok so as far as I'm concerned that's the end of it. Then I start talking to my buddy's GF the next day and turns out the two of them went to HS together and used to be good friends (it was a small high school so how could they not be I guess) Anyway she says that it's true that this girl really is always really busy and even was super busy in HS and has never had a boyfriend. According to my buddy's GF I should ask her again because she's never had a BF and she doesn't think she's blowing me off, we would be good together etc etc. What do you guys think? Leave it or try again? Thanks for all your help and responses so far!
VladPatton
Master Don Juan
Doesn't matter what her friend says. If she has no time in her life for a guy, so be it. I had a similar situation over the summer, where this chick would rather stay home and knit sweaters instead of going out for a drink, or a date, or anything. Is she serious? Apparently, yes! Fück that, man.
Something is not right in the head department with these chicks. Leave it be is my suggestion.
Something is not right in the head department with these chicks. Leave it be is my suggestion.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Valentino14
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Wait for her to ask you out, if you don't hear from her you will know.