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So there's this girl I sit next to in my human resources class at my college and she's really cute. The problem is that sitting on the other side of her is her mopey, whiney, just generally b*tchy friend. I've talked to the cute girl a couple times in class and also on facebook. I eventually got her number over facebook (I know I know) and texted back a forth a little bit. My question is there any way to ask her out in spite of her friend? The only time I see her is in class so she's with her friend. The other thing is that the first time I texted her she responded a couple hours later and apologized because she didn't have her phone on her. Personally I thought it was a bit odd to apologize for something like that but what do you think? Thanks for your responses!! You guys don't get enough credit for helping out all the people on the boards!!
 

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sh8716 said:
The other thing is that the first time I texted her she responded a couple hours later and apologized because she didn't have her phone on her. Personally I thought it was a bit odd to apologize for something like that but what do you think?
It seems a bit odd because unfortunately, good manners and being considerate of others is becoming more and more of a rarity. Sounds like she might be a nice girl... and she wants to talk to you.
When you talk to her, just be as upbeat and happy as you can. She'll soon see what a downer her friend is and start getting tired of her. Then you're ready for the kill :up:
 

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Thanks for the response! Yeah it was odd that she apologized so I didn't know if she thought I was upset or what. I guess my main problem is that her friend is always around when I see her and I just have a problem asking this girl out when her downer friend is there. Are there any ideas how to fix this or should I just man up and do it? If I just ask her out when the friend is there am I setting up for failure?
 

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So she has a friend that she talks to in class. I don't understand what that has to do with whether or not you ask her out.
 

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It's not that she talks to her in class, it's the fact that the downer friend doesn't like me. It sounds stupid I know but I just don't want to set up for failure.
 

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Just do it. The worst that happens is she says no, and you go about your day doing your own thing.

However I agree with youngmack, if you can't ask her out in class because of her friend, just hit her up on her phone one evening.

I get that you don't want to be rejected, but she sounds pretty sound, I find it's difficult to get an apology out of a girl, let alone an apology for something she doesn't even have to apologise for. To me that's a green light.

Also, you're not asking the ***** friend out, so what does it really matter if she doesn't like you.

Gunner
 

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You got her number, just text it away, man. Mention something about the class and throw in a "hey, let's grab coffee on xxxxday!" See what happens. If she says no, act like nothing happened when you see her in class next. If she brings her boring friend you're fücked, Kimosabe! She's not interested in dating.

Good luck.
 

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hey everybody so I was texting this girl today and we were talking about class and I throw in " We should go out for drinks sometime next week, what do you say?" and I get back "Haha yeah maybe sometime." What are your thoughts on this everyone? Green light? Thanks!
 

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Not really a green light. She sort of blew you off. Wait a week or so and ask again. If she's not enthusiastic, doesn't offer a counteroffer, then she's not interested. Just be friendly afterwards as if nothing happened while you Next her.
 

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Well I texted her back and basically said what does you schedule look like next week? She responds back with the "Well I would have to let you know sometime I'm pretty busy with school and all right now etc etc" I responded back and said basically "Well check your schedule and let me know" I'm not actually expecting a response at this point so we'll see. On the one hand she is a senior in college so I can see how she's busy (I'm a junior) but on the other hand if these forums have taught me anything it's that women who like you will make time to be with you. Thinking about just nexting her and moving on. Thoughts?
 

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thinking about it?

If she had any interest she would have made a counter offer by now.

Find another one.
 

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Alright guys so here's an update on my situation: I stopped texting her and she texts me back a couple days later and basically says "Hey sorry I forgot to text you but this week won't work. Sorry!! But thanks for asking." Ok so as far as I'm concerned that's the end of it. Then I start talking to my buddy's GF the next day and turns out the two of them went to HS together and used to be good friends (it was a small high school so how could they not be I guess) Anyway she says that it's true that this girl really is always really busy and even was super busy in HS and has never had a boyfriend. According to my buddy's GF I should ask her again because she's never had a BF and she doesn't think she's blowing me off, we would be good together etc etc. What do you guys think? Leave it or try again? Thanks for all your help and responses so far!
 

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Doesn't matter what her friend says. If she has no time in her life for a guy, so be it. I had a similar situation over the summer, where this chick would rather stay home and knit sweaters instead of going out for a drink, or a date, or anything. Is she serious? Apparently, yes! Fück that, man.

Something is not right in the head department with these chicks. Leave it be is my suggestion.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

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What the other said. I don't know when you have class with her but you could always try to casually ask her to grab something to eat. It's not like she had to schedule when she has lunch or something after class :p.
 
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