So there's this girl I sit next to in my human resources class at my college and she's really cute. The problem is that sitting on the other side of her is her mopey, whiney, just generally b*tchy friend. I've talked to the cute girl a couple times in class and also on facebook. I eventually got her number over facebook (I know I know) and texted back a forth a little bit. My question is there any way to ask her out in spite of her friend? The only time I see her is in class so she's with her friend. The other thing is that the first time I texted her she responded a couple hours later and apologized because she didn't have her phone on her. Personally I thought it was a bit odd to apologize for something like that but what do you think? Thanks for your responses!! You guys don't get enough credit for helping out all the people on the boards!!
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
cute girl with loser female friend
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
It seems a bit odd because unfortunately, good manners and being considerate of others is becoming more and more of a rarity. Sounds like she might be a nice girl... and she wants to talk to you.sh8716 said:
When you talk to her, just be as upbeat and happy as you can. She'll soon see what a downer her friend is and start getting tired of her. Then you're ready for the kill
Thanks for the response! Yeah it was odd that she apologized so I didn't know if she thought I was upset or what. I guess my main problem is that her friend is always around when I see her and I just have a problem asking this girl out when her downer friend is there. Are there any ideas how to fix this or should I just man up and do it? If I just ask her out when the friend is there am I setting up for failure?
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
youngmack
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Call her and ask her bruh
Just do it. The worst that happens is she says no, and you go about your day doing your own thing.
However I agree with youngmack, if you can't ask her out in class because of her friend, just hit her up on her phone one evening.
I get that you don't want to be rejected, but she sounds pretty sound, I find it's difficult to get an apology out of a girl, let alone an apology for something she doesn't even have to apologise for. To me that's a green light.
Also, you're not asking the ***** friend out, so what does it really matter if she doesn't like you.
Gunner
However I agree with youngmack, if you can't ask her out in class because of her friend, just hit her up on her phone one evening.
I get that you don't want to be rejected, but she sounds pretty sound, I find it's difficult to get an apology out of a girl, let alone an apology for something she doesn't even have to apologise for. To me that's a green light.
Also, you're not asking the ***** friend out, so what does it really matter if she doesn't like you.
Gunner
VladPatton
Master Don Juan
You got her number, just text it away, man. Mention something about the class and throw in a "hey, let's grab coffee on xxxxday!" See what happens. If she says no, act like nothing happened when you see her in class next. If she brings her boring friend you're fücked, Kimosabe! She's not interested in dating.
Good luck.
Good luck.
hey everybody so I was texting this girl today and we were talking about class and I throw in " We should go out for drinks sometime next week, what do you say?" and I get back "Haha yeah maybe sometime." What are your thoughts on this everyone? Green light? Thanks!
VladPatton
Master Don Juan
Not really a green light. She sort of blew you off. Wait a week or so and ask again. If she's not enthusiastic, doesn't offer a counteroffer, then she's not interested. Just be friendly afterwards as if nothing happened while you Next her.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Mike32ct
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I agree with everything Vlad said.
Well I texted her back and basically said what does you schedule look like next week? She responds back with the "Well I would have to let you know sometime I'm pretty busy with school and all right now etc etc" I responded back and said basically "Well check your schedule and let me know" I'm not actually expecting a response at this point so we'll see. On the one hand she is a senior in college so I can see how she's busy (I'm a junior) but on the other hand if these forums have taught me anything it's that women who like you will make time to be with you. Thinking about just nexting her and moving on. Thoughts?
Alright guys so here's an update on my situation: I stopped texting her and she texts me back a couple days later and basically says "Hey sorry I forgot to text you but this week won't work. Sorry!! But thanks for asking." Ok so as far as I'm concerned that's the end of it. Then I start talking to my buddy's GF the next day and turns out the two of them went to HS together and used to be good friends (it was a small high school so how could they not be I guess) Anyway she says that it's true that this girl really is always really busy and even was super busy in HS and has never had a boyfriend. According to my buddy's GF I should ask her again because she's never had a BF and she doesn't think she's blowing me off, we would be good together etc etc. What do you guys think? Leave it or try again? Thanks for all your help and responses so far!
VladPatton
Master Don Juan
Doesn't matter what her friend says. If she has no time in her life for a guy, so be it. I had a similar situation over the summer, where this chick would rather stay home and knit sweaters instead of going out for a drink, or a date, or anything. Is she serious? Apparently, yes! Fück that, man.
Something is not right in the head department with these chicks. Leave it be is my suggestion.
Something is not right in the head department with these chicks. Leave it be is my suggestion.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
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Wait for her to ask you out, if you don't hear from her you will know.