youngmack
Master Don Juan
MrNiceGuy23 said:What's AFC mean?
We've all been there at some point, at least you acknowledged it and now you can learn and grow.
Average Frustrated Chump..basically a dude who gets no play
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
MrNiceGuy23 said:What's AFC mean?
We've all been there at some point, at least you acknowledged it and now you can learn and grow.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Women are anywhere and everywhere.JPlaya said:How am I suppose to find a new woman?
Sometimes you can hold out until that point (which is long after sex) and oneitis can still set in. But at least then she can secretly respect you for liking her because you got her.perseverance said:Treat her no differently to anybody else, until she proves to you that she is worthy of your investment.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
It wouldn't let me post, your age is the most obvious explanation. I was a huge coward in high school. I had oneitis for a girl from 8th grade through 10th grade. Took me that long to finally realize she wasn't what I wanted and to move on. The rest of high school wasn't any more successful until the very end of my senior year when I guess you could say I got game (I also was at the gym every day).youngmack said:And yeah i know, im glad i got to experience this at a young age. im 16, But i just dont know to cure this oneitis, I've done everything in the book, and i just cant get her out my mind.
Does she live much farther away than you. If she's close (around an hour or so) and you have a car then you could make it happen if you really wanted to. If you're too far away then you're in a very difficult situation. You could keep up the flirting in hopes that you will win her back when you return in the fall, but this will waste another 3 months of your life if she ends up saying no.JPlaya said:Thing is that summer break happened and everybody went home from college. I know she still has interest because of other stuff and she accepts my kino.
Women choose us, but don't overlook the fact that we are also choosing them.bigneil said:It's not lack of self-worth but simply a fact of life that we maximize our potential for heartbreak when we date the hottest women we can find. Women choose us, and we want to be chosen by women hot enough to hurt us.
I tried this and pulled it off for a few months but in the end still lost. But that's probably why I maintained it so long.Serg897 said:Even if you are dating the hottest possible woman, an attitude of indifference and recognizing the fact that she is free to leave if/when she wants is what gives us the power. This is how you maintain control in relationships and avoid oneitis.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Is it oneitis or is it a natural human reaction? As you go through the stages with a woman it is natural to start to develop feelings and as time goes by these feelings will intensify and at some point they may also diminish. However it is important that you do not allow these feelings to control you and your decision making! Many guys start off as being cool, laid-back and fairly straight forward and then in seeps strong feelings and these guys turn into star struck puppy dogs, that's when the situation usually changes.bigneil said:Sometimes you can hold out until that point (which is long after sex) and oneitis can still set in. But at least then she can secretly respect you for liking her because you got her.
Yes, and I've done this several times. I think this last time was the final wake up call I needed to prevent it from happening again. You're exactly right that we cannot allow ourselves to become dependent - we must recognize these feelings of oneitis and attachment when they bubble up and not identify with them.Many guys start off as being cool, laid-back and fairly straight forward and then in seeps strong feelings and these guys turn into star struck puppy dogs, that's when the situation usually changes.
What do you mean you lost? Do you mean she left and didnt come back? Good, now you know it ended without you wasting anymore time. Thats her loss, not yours, and you have bigger fish to fry.I tried this and pulled it off for a few months but in the end still lost. But that's probably why I maintained it so long.
Serg897 said:Yes, and I've done this several times. I think this last time was the final wake up call I needed to prevent it from happening again. You're exactly right that we cannot allow ourselves to become dependent - we must recognize these feelings of oneitis and attachment when they bubble up and not identify with them.
What do you mean you lost? Do you mean she left and didnt come back? Good, now you know it ended without you wasting anymore time. Thats her loss, not yours, and you have bigger fish to fry.
You can't. Emotions are not a choice. Women find a way to get the best of you eventually (if you're not underachieving). You can't always say the right thing. You take chances and some things come out wrong or produce a reaction that make you regret it. The better you get, the hotter the girl who breaks your heart.Serg897 said:Yes, and I've (turned into star struck puppy dogs) this several times. I think this last time was the final wake up call I needed to prevent it from happening again.
It is natural, and I'd be more afraid to say I didn't love someone who I spent 6 months with than to say I did.perseverance said:Is it oneitis or is it a natural human reaction? As you go through the stages with a woman it is natural to start to develop feelings and as time goes by these feelings will intensify and at some point they may also diminish.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
If you are seeing a woman for several months or are in a relationship with her, it's natural to develop feelings for her, that isn't 'oneitis'. That's just a natural progression. Oneitis usually occurs before any meaningful interaction takes place like what we have witnessed with JPlaya here. Or it happens after a few dates with said girl. Oneitis is just a product of a void in someone's life.Serg897 said:Yes, and I've done this several times. I think this last time was the final wake up call I needed to prevent it from happening again. You're exactly right that we cannot allow ourselves to become dependent - we must recognize these feelings of oneitis and attachment when they bubble up and not identify with them.
let go of your egobigneil said:You can't. Emotions are not a choice. Women find a way to get the best of you eventually (if you're not underachieving). You can't always say the right thing. You take chances and some things come out wrong or produce a reaction that make you regret it. The better you get, the hotter the girl who breaks your heart.
Even Julius Caesar begged Cleopatra not to leave him. It's the male condition.
It is natural, and I'd be more afraid to say I didn't love someone who I spent 6 months with than to say I did.
I want women who completely captivate me. Nothing makes you feel more alive than a) Making love to your dream girl and b) Losing your dream girl.
Do you need to tell a woman that you love her? Can you not show her that you love her through your actions? I am not a fan of telling someone how I feel, I'd much rather show that person because at least then they'll know it's genuine.bigneil said:It is natural, and I'd be more afraid to say I didn't love someone who I spent 6 months with than to say I did.
I want women who completely captivate me. Nothing makes you feel more alive than a) Making love to your dream girl and b) Losing your dream girl.
I see no reason to adopt this defeatist attitude, this women-will-always-get-the-best-of-me mentality. If you have this mindset then guess what - it will always happen to you.You can't. Emotions are not a choice. Women find a way to get the best of you eventually (if you're not underachieving). You can't always say the right thing. You take chances and some things come out wrong or produce a reaction that make you regret it. The better you get, the hotter the girl who breaks your heart.
Even Julius Caesar begged Cleopatra not to leave him. It's the male condition.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.