johnmich
Senior Don Juan
I heard today (on play your cards right) that 12% of women dont think crying de-masculates a man.
What are your opinions on men crying?
What are your opinions on men crying?
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
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Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
frivolousz21
Master Don Juan
Ive cried in front of 3 women....all 3 were or fell in love with me at one point.
dont trust many guys opinions here on this..because they havent cried in front of a women.
Id like to see a guy here who is passionate talk about there abused childhood or dead mom or dying of cancer brother without getting chocked up..
then again some will tell you they will be over there brothers death in a week or how they next friends.
jk I remember 1 guy who said he nexted his friends..cool guy there!
I wouldnt cry in front of a women unless she loves you.
dont trust many guys opinions here on this..because they havent cried in front of a women.
Id like to see a guy here who is passionate talk about there abused childhood or dead mom or dying of cancer brother without getting chocked up..
then again some will tell you they will be over there brothers death in a week or how they next friends.
jk I remember 1 guy who said he nexted his friends..cool guy there!
I wouldnt cry in front of a women unless she loves you.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
DJ_in_making
Master Don Juan
It is human. But don't believe that bullsh*t the girls tell you. They told me b4 they like to see a guy cry. I'm like yea..... the same way you like "nice guys" and stuff right?
the same way you like "nice guys" and stuff right?Rec_rejection_phobic
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absolutly not (i'm not saying i've never done it, just that, notting good ever came out of it...)
12%?????, you do realize that, that's like little bit more then 1 out of 10 right???
12%?????, you do realize that, that's like little bit more then 1 out of 10 right???
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The 12% is conditional. Here's why:
1) When women talk about what they find attractive in a guy, most of what they say doesn't count for 5hit. The 12% number is probably inaccurate.
2) It depends on why the guy is crying. If he cries because she left him and he can't live without her, she'll find it disgusting and won't want to see that.
3) If he cries because of a tragic situation, she won't find it disgusting. She will actually feel with him and most likely join him to cry.
4) Believe it or not, women aren't the only ones who can be moved to tears because of intense emotion. Guys can cry at the end of movies, and when they're happy too. Not sure if this bothers women or not, although I doubt it.
5) Guys who cry for attention (like women do) will get turned away by a woman. This just convinces them that he's not a man.
1) When women talk about what they find attractive in a guy, most of what they say doesn't count for 5hit. The 12% number is probably inaccurate.
2) It depends on why the guy is crying. If he cries because she left him and he can't live without her, she'll find it disgusting and won't want to see that.
3) If he cries because of a tragic situation, she won't find it disgusting. She will actually feel with him and most likely join him to cry.
4) Believe it or not, women aren't the only ones who can be moved to tears because of intense emotion. Guys can cry at the end of movies, and when they're happy too. Not sure if this bothers women or not, although I doubt it.
5) Guys who cry for attention (like women do) will get turned away by a woman. This just convinces them that he's not a man.
Marlimus
Senior Don Juan
Spilling your guts is as ugly as it sounds. Crying is like farting. We all do it, its only human an nothing shameful, but don't make it a habit in front of people.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
johnmich
Senior Don Juan
That means that just under 9/10 find it alrite although it does depend on why your crying.
I am wondering mainly about crying during / after a movie because that is the only time i would cry (apart from death or tragedies).
Yea I agree with those who said it depends what your crying about.
If your crying because you spilled milk all over your new trousers, then you're a whiny little b1tch. If you cry because thousands of lives were lost in a tsunami or your friends mum just died, what's wrong with that? It shows you have a humane side, and more still, you aren't AFRAID to cry.
If your crying because you spilled milk all over your new trousers, then you're a whiny little b1tch. If you cry because thousands of lives were lost in a tsunami or your friends mum just died, what's wrong with that? It shows you have a humane side, and more still, you aren't AFRAID to cry.
Crying is a sign of weakness and there is no question about that.
The problem is that there are a lot of women who think that men are told not to cry.
What they don't understand is that men just don't cry unless we are truely upset about something. If someone dies or if something really bad happens then it is ok. Women think that men are holding back their feelings, but the truth is we just don't feel like crying as much as they do. that is part of being a man.
As a man I view myself as a strong pillar that my girl can lean on. That is what makes me attractive to her. My strength is what keeps her around.
Women might say that they find men who cry attractive, but that is totally untrue. These women, like most women, don't know what they find understand what they find attractive.
If you have a woman that complains about you not showing your feelings then you are golden!
"oh he doesn't show his feelings"
translation
"I find him to be strong and sexy"
The problem is that there are a lot of women who think that men are told not to cry.
What they don't understand is that men just don't cry unless we are truely upset about something. If someone dies or if something really bad happens then it is ok. Women think that men are holding back their feelings, but the truth is we just don't feel like crying as much as they do. that is part of being a man.
As a man I view myself as a strong pillar that my girl can lean on. That is what makes me attractive to her. My strength is what keeps her around.
Women might say that they find men who cry attractive, but that is totally untrue. These women, like most women, don't know what they find understand what they find attractive.
If you have a woman that complains about you not showing your feelings then you are golden!
"oh he doesn't show his feelings"
translation
"I find him to be strong and sexy"
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Men do cry. When bad things happen men get emotional about it aswell. It's prefectly natural and also healthy. If you don't feel like crying, then fine. But it doesn't make you more manly. Just more coldhearted. Infact, If you feel like crying but don't, then you are going against the DJ principles. You don't care what people think of you if you decide to cry. You cry 'cause YOU feel like it.
Men should ofcourse not cry in a whiny way. That repulses women. But i actually think that after a man cries with his woman when something terrible has happened, that it brings another dimension to the relationship. She feels closer to him and it's especially powerful if he's a strong man that never really cries.
How a woman views a man crying depends entirely on the situation. If a guy has a reason to cry, then women won't see him as weak. You know...someone you care about dies, you walk in and catch your girlfriend having sex with your best friend, someone steals your identity, wipes out your savings and puts $25,000 on your credit cards, you break your leg and are in horrible pain, or someone does or says something that really hurts you badly.
Everyone cries sometimes and if they don't, they need to. It's actually really good for you to cry and release things that upset you once in awhile.
Now, if a guy starts sobbing if he steps on an ant or stuff like that...then yeah, women will think you are a pansy.
Everyone cries sometimes and if they don't, they need to. It's actually really good for you to cry and release things that upset you once in awhile.
Now, if a guy starts sobbing if he steps on an ant or stuff like that...then yeah, women will think you are a pansy.
i wept a few tears at work infront of my old oneitis when a fone call from home was recieved by my manager and she came and told me to to fone home. I foned home and found out a relative had just passed away. i came back shook up trying to not to cry or shed tears. I was clearing my things away and the odd tear would trickle down my cheek and i would wipe it away silently. My manager was clearing my things up and i told her im going home.
I walked passed my oneitis and she said "where you going , whats wrong?"
i had my hood on by now and didnt want no one to see my eyes that had well'ed up full of tears,
"im going home, i have to go"
"why u going home?
"some one has just passed away"
"oh, im really sorry for asking"
"its ok"
other than that id never cry, and never cry infront of any woman or any man.
Grown MEN dont cry . Girly boys cry.
I walked passed my oneitis and she said "where you going , whats wrong?"
i had my hood on by now and didnt want no one to see my eyes that had well'ed up full of tears,
"im going home, i have to go"
"why u going home?
"some one has just passed away"
"oh, im really sorry for asking
""its ok"
other than that id never cry, and never cry infront of any woman or any man.
Grown MEN dont cry . Girly boys cry.
frivolousz21
Master Don Juan
other than that id never cry, and never cry infront of any woman or any man.
Grown MEN dont cry . Girly boys cry.
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actually recent studies have shown..that ive read in readers digest is that guys cry a lot..exp behind closed doors.
I cry probably atleast 1 time a month.
im a very PASSIONATE PERSON...I CAN GET CHOCKED UP EASILY.
you think women dont like that?
women love men that are passionate.
dont confuse crying like a baby and crying for passion.
**** Vermial the NFl coach freaking cries at every press conference after a game..
he is a man loved by millions and his former players love him more then ive ever seen in sports.
his passion for them and the game...makes him special
Grown MEN dont cry . Girly boys cry.
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actually recent studies have shown..that ive read in readers digest is that guys cry a lot..exp behind closed doors.
I cry probably atleast 1 time a month.
im a very PASSIONATE PERSON...I CAN GET CHOCKED UP EASILY.
you think women dont like that?
women love men that are passionate.
dont confuse crying like a baby and crying for passion.
**** Vermial the NFl coach freaking cries at every press conference after a game..
he is a man loved by millions and his former players love him more then ive ever seen in sports.
his passion for them and the game...makes him special
Iamnotacrook
Senior Don Juan
Crying is fun. I've cried pretty much on purpose when I'd watch movies by myself. I wish I had more sad movies. Inspiration. Trust me, crying is like... something you have to do to stay sane.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.