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There is something very wrong about all of this....... the duration to which its been dragged out , the way governments have acted , the lies , the hysteria , the OTT and enforcement of ridiculous rules the divide and conquer tactics

All of it is bizarre i don't see how any logical / critical thinker would be able to say otherwise

Not disputing there's been a virus

Was it released on purpose - Quite possibly

Has it been blown out of all proportion ? - absolutely

Has it caused mass social division ? - absolutely

Is there an ulterior motive going on ? - no doubt something is going on but time will reveal the full extent of what this pandemic has actually been used for
 

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There is something very wrong about all of this....... the duration to which its been dragged out , the way governments have acted , the lies , the hysteria , the OTT and enforcement of ridiculous rules the divide and conquer tactics

All of it is bizarre i don't see how any logical / critical thinker would be able to say otherwise

Not disputing there's been a virus

Was it released on purpose - Quite possibly

Has it been blown out of all proportion ? - absolutely

Has it caused mass social division ? - absolutely

Is there an ulterior motive going on ? - no doubt something is going on but time will reveal the full extent of what this pandemic has actually been used for
Yeah...the hysteria of hospitals having no beds has been really blown out of proportion
 

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Still, it's hard to deny what Black Widow posted.

1. "it's just for two weeks to flatten the curve."
You believed them.
2. "Everyone wear a mask."
You complied.
3. "Get a vaccine and then you won't catch it. "
You got the vaccine.
4. "No, that's the Delta virus. You're still safe from covid-19 if you are vaccinated.
You still believe them.
5. "oh okay, you can still catch covid-19, but you won't get as sick."
You continue to believe them.
6. Forget what we said about going maskless once vaccined. Wear a mask anyway.
You will comply.

They will continue moving the goalpost as long as you continue to obey.
Or if you get really sick dont call the hospital because they cant help you. They are turning back people because all the beds are full like in India. Is that better to comply with? Compliance to prevent complying with that.
 

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This thread is a conversation about a serious health issue, try to treat it that way.
Covid is the 7th leading killer in the US right now. Are we talking about 1-6? No.

99% survival rate. Nearly all deaths deal with people who had know or underlying severe health issues.

Yeah, sounds pretty serious.
 

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This about this-

why does the left want people to show their vax cards to go do anything, but cry like the babies they are when someone wants to require an ID to vote?

Delta Variant= lets have more cheating and voting by mail so the left doesnt get destroyed in the mid terms next year, because based on all of their approval ratings, things are going to be shaken up in the Senate and the House.

People are tired of this shyte and its only been 7 months.
 

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Umm sure there is...99.8% of people in the hospital with COVID currently in the US are unvaccinated.

And what are you talking about? It most assuredly is tracked. In NYS you had to register on a website before getting vaccinated. How do you think all these places know what their vaccination rate is?
I can promise you that it is not tracked in the midwest states.

And I wouldnt live in NY for a second. Thanks to the Sexual Predator Cuomo and De Blasio, they have turned it into a shythole. No wonder people are leaving NY by the hundreds of thousands and as quick as they can get out of there.
 

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From Wikipedia:
Joseph Michael Mercola (/mərˈkoʊlə/;[1] born July 8, 1954) is an American alternative medicine proponent, osteopathic physician, and Internet business person. He markets dietary supplements and medical devices,[2]some of which are controversial. On his website, Mercola and colleagues advocate a number of unproven alternative health notions including homeopathy and opposition to vaccination. These positions have faced persistent criticism.

Try to provide qualified medical professionals, not a snake oil and diet pill salesman…
This thread is a conversation about a serious health issue, try to treat it that way.
I posted that Dr. as a psychological experiment to see if the sheeple will focus their energy on finding a reason to discredit the Dr, or see the real reason why I posted it. You sir failed the test and go home with an F. The real test was seeing how our 1st Amendment is being destroyed. We are at the point where if it doesn't fit the enemies narrative they want it censored. They are not hiding the extreme measures for censoring either.

In order to control a population you must control the flow of information in order to manipulate the minds of those who consume it.

There are medical professionals all over the world that cannot speak due to fear of being censored, banned, threaten to have their license revoked, threaten with legal action or scared for their life. Same way they censored then banned the inventor of the Mrna on top of the many that have been posted here. They even went as far as rewriting history in Wiki by removing his name as the inventor. Their mind control works so well you can see how no one seems to care about the real problems.

See how they have you focusing on the wrong things, while not seeing and or simply ignoring all the things they're doing to destroy this country? They went from "my body my choice", to "not your body, not your choice, now "we know where you live". Recognize your enemy.

A dictatorship means muzzles all round and consequently stultification. Science can flourish only in an atmosphere of free speech.

Albert Einstein


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Psychologically what happens is once someone becomes convinced of something no matter what facts become available, they will not change their opinion because they will have to admit they are wrong and it will be a blow to their ego. So they will go to great lengths, even comical sometimes, to avoid having to admit they are wrong, even tho logically they know they are.

This is what 95% of the people against the vaccine/COVID facts are about.
You pulled that 95% out your butthole. Mr. Intelligent himself has to constantly remind members in each thread if you don't follow the narrative and take the shot you're not smart like him. In fact you deserve to win a Darwin award for not submitting to Satan.

Are the medical professionals in this thread not intelligent for telling you masks don't work, or they wouldn't take the shot even if you paid them millions of dollars? Are you man enough to admit to them you're wrong?


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why was my recent post on here deleted? Did it touch a nerve? It broke ZERO forum rules.

Please explain.
Read it.
 

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I can promise you that it is not tracked in the midwest states.

And I wouldnt live in NY for a second. Thanks to the Sexual Predator Cuomo and De Blasio, they have turned it into a shythole. No wonder people are leaving NY by the hundreds of thousands and as quick as they can get out of there.
I'm not leaving, I think where I live is pretty amazing and I've lived in quite a few places around the country.

Not surprising about the Midwest states, they are the ones at the center of the unvaccinated outbreak.
 

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I'm not leaving, I think where I live is pretty amazing and I've lived in quite a few places around the country.

Not surprising about the Midwest states, they are the ones at the center of the unvaccinated outbreak.
I used to love NYC. Lived in that area 20 years ago. Wouldnt go back now.

And if you look at where the outbreaks are at, they are in bordering areas of the southern border as well as places in the midwest where these illegals are being transported to and never heard from again.

It all adds up if you just look at the process and a map.
 

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And I am outta here. Peace out in this specific forum.

There is no possible way that anyone can have an HONEST conversation about covid or many other issues without breaking the "RULES".

I will take that to where my voice isnt limited and I can express my first amendment rights and just stick to the conversations of banging women on here ;)
 

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I get a letter from my GP every ten years to get booster shots. This covers (I think) tetanus, diphtheria and whooping cough.
It’s not connected to anything I’ve done. I had it at about 12 months, I think another when I was a small child (not 100% on that one) but I most certainly had it at about 15, 25 and 35.

they send me a letter and ask me to come in for a booster.

I’m just saying when you said that the Covid jab isn’t like other jabs where you’re “done in one shot” that isn’t true of a lot of vaccines.

ive personally had measles mumps and scarletina (which I think is what they call rubella) so I’ve never had that vaccine anyway. That’s how ancient I am.

the MMR jab was FIERCELY opposed in U.K. as they said it caused autism. What’s your call on this? As far as I can see, that was the same nonsense as we see now. Nearly all kids get the MMR jab.
Again, I am talking about MMR. I cannot comment on UK, as I know nothing about how things work in Europe, only the State of Connecticut and the US in terms of medicine. A doctor can send you a request to do whatever boosters they want, however, most doctors only administer booster shots when needed. We do not issue booster shots to patients in the clinic unless they've come down with something and it warrants it, or they request it. So, that would need to be a discussion between you and your doctor. I wouldn't be surprised if it's done so they could bill for the service and get paid either by your gov't or your health insurance.
 

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You work in the hospital right? Someone like you should know first hand the extent of side effects from the jab. Are you spooked off the jab based on what you are seeing in your clinic?
Correct. We do not administer the shots in the ER, but I've heard stories from colleagues which the media isn't reporting. The vaccine causes an immune response in one's body from our immune system. Which, causes inflammation of certain cells. Since a person can have an auto-immune disease, known or unknown, they start to come out and cause issues in some patients. It is of concern for many people who have a weakened immune system and any HSV virus, celiac, IBS, IBD, COPD, cancer, etc. So much is unknown so personally, I will not take it. The recovery rate for a person exposed to COVID without the vaccine is between 97% and 99.75% (source: https://www.webmd.com/lung/covid-recovery-overview#1).
 

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You make several good points and I agree with them to a point. I think we should have erred on the side of freedom instead of safety. That way of thinking seems to be becoming more and more obsolete, and may well be gone in a generation or two. And I believe we should have focused more on the elderly and others who were more vulnerable rather than shutting everything down. However, I do not believe Covid is a hoax (misrepresented, sure), and I am an advocate of vaccines, so I got this one. And I do not appreciate being compared to a tagged cow.
I agree (I also don't believe covid is a hoax). If not for you, I'd almost swear that this vaccine has caused folks to become biased and angry. I really appreciate your objectivity (you're probably more objective than I). No offence intended.
 

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Correct. We do not administer the shots in the ER, but I've heard stories from colleagues which the media isn't reporting. The vaccine causes an immune response in one's body from our immune system. Which, causes inflammation of certain cells. She a patient cam have an auto-immune disease, known or unknown, they start to come out and cause issues in some patients. It is of concern for many people who have a weakened immune system and any HSV virus, celiac, IBS, IBD, COPD, cancer, etc. So much is unknown so personally, I will not take it. The recovery rate for a person exposed to COVID without the vaccine is between 97% and 99.75% (source: https://www.webmd.com/lung/covid-recovery-overview#1).
@Mauser96 -- that is why. This is the only non-conspiracy, non delusional crack-pot post concerning this matter from a trusted and known reliable source. I've been looking for a post exactly like this because I honestly was about to take the vaccine. After just hearing from the likes of @stovepipe and the self-righteous rants and name-calling I was about to say f***it and just take a pfizer vaccine because the nay side's credibility was nose-diving and I'm feeling like an idiot for listening to them and delaying the vaccine by 3-4 months over nonsense.

Nobody can say this guy is right-wing conspiracy theorist. The problem boils down to my own immune response. I think I may have IBS or I'm not sure what my issues are since I haven't got a blood test in 2 years, etc... So, in other words, its best not to go blind with this vaccine, but to do some up to date tests to see if there are any issues.

My concern is I get these mild body twitches sometimes at night after using the Occulus Quest 2 or if I'm over stimulated before going to bed. Like my body might twitch here or there. If something causes that gets inflamed then there is a risk an inflammation to those cells by the vaccine might cause full onset epilepsy if I use the Occulus Quest 2 for 2 - 3 hours after taking the vaccine.

The thing is most people will not realistically go through a whole series of tests on themselves to evaluate the potential for any inflamed response. I certainly won't. Allot of people don't even find out about cancers until they are in the forth-phase and dread looking for trouble by seeing a doctor. So it's fair to say most people go into this blind and the reality is the side-effects can not be gauged since you can't 100% know what the issues are.
 
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And I wouldnt live in NY for a second. Thanks to the Sexual Predator Cuomo and De Blasio, they have turned it into a shythole.
We all had to live under pvssy grabber for 4 years.

No wonder people are leaving NY by the hundreds of thousands and as quick as they can get out of there.
They’re all just moving to NJ. Home values are up 20% here.
 

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Yeah...the hysteria of hospitals having no beds has been really blown out of proportion
the narrative of " it could get really bad so we better pretend it is really bad" has been repeatedly used by both officials and the media to manipulate weak minded people throughout this pandemic

A group actually broke into a covid ward in London last year during the peak .they posted videos online the entire ward was empty

it was hushed up very very quickly , much like anyone who dare to raise an eyebrow at the whole fiasco

in the uk the masses were categorically told if you exhibit any symptoms then you must not go anywhere near a doctors surgery or hospital you must self isolate for 14 days

So how exactly are all these cases getting to hospitals when the general advice is so just sit in your house and wait it out ?

The end result of a pandemic is supposed to be deaths , yet bizarrely more people died here in 2015 of natural causes

There are one two many red herrings surrounding covid for me to buy the pre prescribed mass narrative

In the cold light of day If this were a legitimate pandemic then nobody would be questioning it...... yet here we are

Something is not right.
 
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