"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Countering AMOG's?

ElStud

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This doesn't have anything to do with seduction, but just AMOG's in general. In High School AMOG's are VAST. The kids who will try to ruin your game and try to get you down when you're improving. The more they see people starting to like you, the more jealous they get and the more they try and get you down. The term AMOG is really giving these guys too much pride because they're not Alpha Males in any way, shape or form. But these are generally the loser or not so loser guys, who try to get you down when they see you improving. There's one particular Freshman AMOG I'm trying to deal with right now. So I'm just sitting in the senior lounge and I'm talking to this group of girls who are friends of mine and this ignoramous AMOG kid starts throwing his food at me. I didn't really react, but one of the girls was like "Ew! Can you tell him to stop?". Yes, even the GIRLS hate this guy. Basically man, this guy is what you call a hater. He sees me improving starting to not care what other people think and he starts saying sh*t like "Are you retarded?" and I just say "F*ck you man". And I can tell the kid is a loser too, all he does is sit down at lunch and he doesn't talk to anyone except his friends that sit down with him.

But basically man, how do you combat AMOG's?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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BigPoppa

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He's a freshman, and it sounds like you are a senior, why didn't you beat his ass?
 

ElStud

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BigPoppa said:
He's a freshman, and it sounds like you are a senior, why didn't you beat his ass?
Let's see, first of all he's not worth it. Second of all, I'm not about to get into a fight because some dumb freshman kid did some stupid sh*t to me. The kids just honestly not worth getting a possible suspension over.
 

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ElStud said:
Let's see, first of all he's not worth it. Second of all, I'm not about to get into a fight because some dumb freshman kid did some stupid sh*t to me. The kids just honestly not worth getting a possible suspension over.
make sure to have witnessess, and then have him attack you with the first strike?

Then you get to both beat him up and get him suspended. :whistle:
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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smooth guy

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ElStud said:
Let's see, first of all he's not worth it. Second of all, I'm not about to get into a fight because some dumb freshman kid did some stupid sh*t to me. The kids just honestly not worth getting a possible suspension over.
Whether it's worth it or not isn't the issue here.

You mustn't take **** from anybody, ESPECIALLY when they're lower status than you are. By ignoring you show him that you are weak. It's not a matter of being mature.. if being mature means you'll have some punk ass moron throwing food at you while you're with a female group then **** maturity.

Next time go up to him and give him a serious warning not to pull that **** on you. Warn him that if he persists next time you're gonna be the one approaching him with food in your hand shoving it straight up his ass.

Even if the guy is stronger than you, stand up tall for yourself man. Just don't take that kind of ****, unless it is done in a playful manner.
 

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First of all, I'm very impressed by your ability to not react to someone trying to get a reaction out of you. You clearly realized that was the case and not reacting took a lot of self-discipline. The problem is, certain actions warrant certain reactions

I'm not going to tell you what you should have done, or what I would have done, because everyone's tolerance is different. Remember though that people will treat you as you allow them to treat you. You obviously have a problem with this, or you wouldn't be posting about it on an internet forum, so I suggest you take the necessary actions to prevent this behavior from people
 
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