I was shopping at a mall with a FB, and we joked around if we would run into any women who would pass what I call "the paper bag test" - I would not need to cover her face with a paper bag while doing her. An hour of shopping ensued, not a single one! Even apparel stores were filled only with HB4's and 5's at most. Where do you find all the 9's and 10's? For every 10 there are 1,000 5's.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Could you handle having a trophy girlfriend/wife?
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
daygameguy
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Victoria Secret lingerie store in any big mall.firebird said:
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best reply so farbigjohnson said:
LonesomeLoser
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When I think of a trophy wife/gf, I don't think of anything other than pure physical looks. If I won the lottery or something and I had women wanting me for my money, I would just pick the best looking ones, preferrably barely legal because they look the best and those are the ones I lust after the most. And to me half the point of having a gf/wife would be to be seen with her, people thinking I'm cool because I have such a hot looking woman, guys being envious of me. Even though I'm (in my own opinion even) very unattractive and with no experience with women at 35, it just wouldn't be any fun to have a gf who wasn't at least a HB7 because I want to be seen with her and look cool.
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Well, if you won the lottery and the 9's and 10's who were barely legal were using you for money and you know that then it's great! you use them for their looks and they use you for your money. A match made in heaven I say.
As for all the hb 9's and 10's. Perhaps I'm much more picky in my ratings. But living in LA I see actresses and models all the time and i rarely see a 10. The highest I dated was a 9 and she was conceited as hell. I've seen Heidi Klum,Rachel Bilson,Gisele Buchen and load of other people in person and I wouldn't give any of them higher than a 7 or 8.
Victoria Secret is on Rodeo drive and I've been there with girlfriends often and rarely see anything above an 8 in there.
Well,some guys must be living in a part of the country where all hot 9's and 10's congregate. Parts of Vegas or Miami I suspect?
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
DonGorgon
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I dated an HB9 for 8 years... it was cool until she got her RN nursing degree then she decided she was too good for me...LOL She left me for the rich Jewish son of 2 doctors who was in medschool himself... I guess she moved up... He dumped her a year and a half later cause his mom didnt want him dating a black girl for too long, lest she get pregnant and gain access to the families wealth......
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You can have more issues dating a 5 than a 10, IMO. Everyone's different.
A 5 that has a lot to prove is going to welcome attention from other guys. A 10 that is used to it will often seek to avoid it.
No matter if you have a 5 or a 10, your girl will get hit on CONSTANTLY. 99% of the time, it will be by AFC d-bags. The main difference is that the guys hitting on your 10 will be older and richer, with higher status. Still, if your girl is into you and loves and respects you, there won't be any issues.
I don't see any reason to avoid 9's and 10's under the assumption that they're all high maintenance b!tches. I DO see a reason to avoid LSE and high drama girls, whether they're a 10 or a 5.
A 5 that has a lot to prove is going to welcome attention from other guys. A 10 that is used to it will often seek to avoid it.
No matter if you have a 5 or a 10, your girl will get hit on CONSTANTLY. 99% of the time, it will be by AFC d-bags. The main difference is that the guys hitting on your 10 will be older and richer, with higher status. Still, if your girl is into you and loves and respects you, there won't be any issues.
I don't see any reason to avoid 9's and 10's under the assumption that they're all high maintenance b!tches. I DO see a reason to avoid LSE and high drama girls, whether they're a 10 or a 5.