"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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backbreaker

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Before I post this, I want you to know that this girl I am reffering to you as someone I am see as a friend, even thoush she is pretty cute, I am not trying to **** or have a LTR, I have enoguh **** Buddies to get a good friend envolved with me and I just got out of a LTR, but this is just got me curious.

Thiis girl I am very, very good friends with. She calls me all the time, usually at night (and usually I don't answer) but that's not the point.

There is this guy, total AFC if there was one.. sad thing is that coming from a man, he is pretty good looking... he actually is a model (just shows what AFCdom can do for you) is so obsessed with this girl it's out of control. She was telling me this stuff that he was saying and I honestly didn't believe her, so she put me on three-way while she called him and low and behold, he was that bad of a chump. The guy told her he wanted to marry her... and she just broke up with this guys best friend 1 week ago (he had been hounding her the entire time) He gets mad at her for letting other friends, including girls call her and they aren't even dating, nor does she have any intention on dating him.

However (bare wiith me, i'm a little tipsy) that's not my point either. Yesterday she called me at 4 in the morning. She knows me to the point where she knows I am usually wide awoke, so I had no problem talking to her, as I was done working.

Now, I am actually trying to help this poor guy out, trying to get her to have sex with him before she stopps talking with him (don't know why, jsut fun to see what I can get away with) And she goes onto this rant about " there are is no one I want to date right now"... I have an idea of what that means but I let it slide because like I said, it's not like that with her, I really dont' want her, and I am talking to her telling her that (my exact words) she needs some d**k and I asked her when was the last time she had been f**ked, not had sex, but f**ked and she said it has been awhile. She told me how she grabbed this guys **** last week while they were in the car, and she didn't get turned on by it.

Again, I am getting off point, let me wrap this up.

If any of you know me, you know I have (now it's had) a GF that 's pretty damn good looking (her pic is on this site, just look up my name) We broke up, or I broke up with her around 2 weeks ago for reasons I don't want tog et into, mainly because I don't see her as LTR material any longer. Now, she was over my house earlier today and we were watching the sopranos and my phone rang, and I had a voice mail. These two girls never got along and I stopped talking to my friend for a second because I wanted to give the girl I was in a LTR every opprotunity to prove herself, letting her hang herself with her own rope.

so anyway of course I don't pick up, and my ex gets an attitude and leaves, even though she ended up coming back. But when I called my friend, and told her that she called me when my ex was over here she said "you should have told her that me and you have been sleeping together the last week every night". Now normally I wouldn't have thought twice about that, and to be honestly I did brush it off, but I have noticed a pattern of her making subjective remarks towards me.

So there was this party out of town that I was going tonight. I told her I was going, and it just so happens that the guy that is riding her jock strap like a horse jockey lives in this town and he wants to see her. So she says " hey, how about when you get to the party, you call me so I can come kick it with you, it will give me an excuse to leave him, and I will see you".... NOw of course I didn't call her because I was busy getting on the girls there, and boy was it some girls there.

So I call her when i am going back to town just to kill time and it turns out she couldn't go anyway. She says she is going to sleep, so I tell her to get off the phone so Ican call another girl and she says "You aren't going to cheat on me, i'm staying on the phone" and we ended up talking.

I used to date her best friend in high school (I am now 22) and her best friend is now what I would call a slut. I told her "damn, if jenn were here I would have ****ed the **** out of her". She quickly said "No you wouldn't"... which to me sounded more like "I wouldn't let you"... mind you I really wouldn't have touched this girl with someone else's ****, but I was just probing to see what is going on with this girl.

Now, if i'm not mistaken, It hink this girl wants to **** me.... And to be honest she is pretty damn good looking, but the f unny part is I feel like a woman when she LJBF's a guy, and even though I think she is cute, I am getting soo much ass right now, I don't want to hurt her feelings because I am not going to date her and I am not going to give up the girls to be with her, so I want to keep it as friends.

So I guess what i am asking is a) do you guys think what I am thinking that she is interestd and b)if she is, how do I difsuse it?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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nishbuk

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Now I definitely don't have as much experience as yourself, but I think that the way to diffuse any girl's passion and get LJBFed, is simple.

Think ANTI-BIBLE! lol.

just tell her all about your feelings for other women, and become ultra sensitive around her. If she has girl problems, listen to them, and soak up her tears and stress like the emotional tampon that you want to become to her. Tell her everything about yourself so there is no mystery, and don't stop talking about yourself.
:biggrin:
 

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but I don't want to become AFC in the process... I mean, you never know what might take place in the future
 

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I'm pretty new, but the way I see it, why don't you just tell her, "Look, I can afford not sleeping with you, but I can't afford losing a friend."

That way no egos are hurt, and you get your point through, and aren't ambigous (sending mixed signals) either.
 

nishbuk

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Originally posted by backbreaker
but I don't want to become AFC in the process... I mean, you never know what might take place in the future
Lol. Well then I have no idea. :( Somebody else should be better suited to answer.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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