"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Is it possible that an extremely good looking guy, like let's say someone who would look like Brad Pitt could become unattractive to women at some point?

And Obviously I don't mean at the physical level like he would gain weight or get face deformed.

Masters' replies would be great...
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Of course, why not?

Looks dont have as much an effect on women as they do for men. Women are all about emotions. If this Brad Pitt lookalike doesnt stir up emotions inside her, she wont really be attracted to him beyond basic physical stuff. And as we all know, that doesnt go very far.
 
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ChaoticGamer said:
Is it possible that an extremely good looking guy, like let's say someone who would look like Brad Pitt could become unattractive to women at some point?

And Obviously I don't mean at the physical level like he would gain weight or get face deformed.

Masters' replies would be great...
So, hypothetically.

You are a good looking guy (like Brad Pitt) and you are unatractive to women?


Why don't you be a little straight?
 

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ChaoticGamer said:
Is it possible that an extremely good looking guy, like let's say someone who would look like Brad Pitt could become unattractive to women at some point?

And Obviously I don't mean at the physical level like he would gain weight or get face deformed.

Masters' replies would be great...
Have you seen Brad Pitt now as opposed to how he looked 5 years ago? He looks like Mickey Rourke after falling off his bike and scraping the fvck outta his face. The guy's horrendous.

And yes, the reason you can't get women even though you're "good looking" is your defeatist attitude.
 

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Well, defeatist attitude... exactly about that I'd like to know more. I'm impressed by your conclusion, specially because you nailed it better than anyone else...
How do I start to change that?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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ChaoticGamer said:
Well, defeatist attitude... exactly about that I'd like to know more. I'm impressed by your conclusion, specially because you nailed it better than anyone else...
How do I start to change that?
Aha! That IS you.


Answer to question: keep trying different things and find something that works for you. Try being nice, tough, desperate, emo.... whatever. Just find something that works good. Try, try, and try some more, and when you fail, do something else and keep trying.
 

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In that way, I do agree, I should try completely different things, and I will, trust me. But I don't know If it is a problem that I am kinda Shallow, 'and always swinged for the fence' you know...
I always tend to go to bars and approach the best looking girl there is. and at the beginning they like me, 9 out ten times I get their numbers, BUT 10 out of 10 times Something never has happened.... I am an Idiot in knowing how to keep the interest in a girl or even knowing how to ask them out for the 1st time without looking F***ing needy! and as response they always seem to have other things to do, just the day I ask'em out.
 

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i'm not a master; but i want to comment about an episode of "blind date" that i saw which relates to this.

the guy fit your description of being extremely good-looking: tall, buff, dirty blonde hair, he even had some European accent or something, he had style too... this guy really fit your description

when the girl first meets this guy, it's obvious that she's strongly attracted to him. she's the one being playful, flirtatious... she even brings up sex. for instance, she asked him if he's ever been in a threesome.

although this guy was extremely good-looking, he was also unfortunately extremely shy... his shyness was holding him back big time; he came across way too serious and it made him out to have no personality at all. she asked him a sexual question, for instance, and it really stumped him... he lost his composure and couldn't even answer the damn question. she even asked him if he "dates a lot," but it was obvious she asked him this because he seemed so inexperienced. the only time he broke out of his shell was in one scene where he wrestled her to the ground (that was after she was ****ing w/ him by poking him playfully w/ a sword numerous times) when he did this, i was like "yeah, she belongs to him now" but unfortunately, his non-playful and extremely shy attitude came back to haunt him.

what was interesting about this episode was that you can clearly see the girl's attraction level start at an all time high, only to decrease little by little as the date goes on. she at first was obviously really attracted to him because he was extremely good-looking, but as she got to know his personality, her initial attraction for him would disappear.
 

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ChaoticGamer said:
Is it possible that an extremely good looking guy, like let's say someone who would look like Brad Pitt could become unattractive to women at some point?

And Obviously I don't mean at the physical level like he would gain weight or get face deformed.

Masters' replies would be great...

I will tell you one thing...not every woman found Brad Pitt attractive (some women don't like blondes...others don't like white). Attraction is a very personal thing.

And I think that Brad Pitt (the 40+ version) has more to do with how he currently carries himself (masculine) than his current looks. He is not the "young looking" man that he used to be 5-10 years ago. But he still carries himself in a masculine way. Fact is...he dumped his wife for whatever reason and sought the woman that was willing to satisfy him (mentally or whatever). Tom Cruise did the same.

To answer your question...of course! It is possible for a man that is extremely "good looking" to become unattractive. Heck, he could be "good looking" and at the same time NONE attractive. Especially if he is dealing with women that are intelligent and have focus in their lives. Another thing...what many men might view as "attractive"...women might not view it that way. Look at Benicio del Toro or Billy Bob Thorton: both are not "pretty"...but women find them attractive.

I have been with women that were with men that were "prettier" or have better bodies than me. But they lacked in other areas...apparentally the areas that truly mattered the most to those women.

Don't confuse "looks" with "attractiveness".
 
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