Cougar Played Hard To Get

[aura]

I ran into a very rare situation this weekend: a cougar who actually required time to game. Cougars for me, usually take about 1-5 seconds, and maybe a few minutes tops before they let me know they are ready for sex.

Not this kitten. This girl required HOURS. Not seconds, not minutes, HOURS before she showed her hands. Just as I started typing this, I realized how strong of a sense of entitlement I had that night. She can take as long as she wants, it's her choice. I can either choose to keep pursuing or let the fish back in the ocean.

I chose the latter. I got irritated with her constant push pull instead of choosing to remain calm and indifferent or amused. As a result, another guy walked her out of the party.

So now, I am feeling regret that I didn't push harder, and jealous that another guy walked out with her. All of the other bullsh1t about guys kissing my butt was just a way of distracting myself from my own disappointment at how things worked out.

As a result of not pushing hard enough, I am left with some frustrating pointless questions:

-did she sleep with him?

And some sobering realities:

-it's probably pointless to pursue her now....


Anyway, a night of frustration and disappointment: tell me there's a silver lining, please.

 

[doyex]

I ran into a very rare situation this weekend: a cougar who actually required time to game. Cougars for me, usually take about 1-5 seconds, and maybe a few minutes tops before they let me know they are ready for sex.

Anyway, a night of frustration and disappointment: tell me there's a silver lining, please.

LOL...

 

[aura]

I hear you, man. Have fun with the chase, instead of brooding about the outcome after the fact. Makes a lot of sense.

 

[aura]

See, you've done right in the sense that you don't worry about ego.

In my situation she did say 'yes,' non-verbally, on the dance floor. But I didn't follow up, or rather, I gave up too easily.

Anyway, this one wasn't meant to be, perhaps. I am really confused and frustrated by the situation, which is to say, that getting over the frustration of the single situation is the solution in and of itself.

 

[nismo-4]

OP, give it up. She's highly likely not interested in you that way. Go get one that takes you 1-5 seconds to get instead.

This is exactly why Judge nismo is working out a lot more. Young women aren't easy. Cougars/ Milfs are no easier. These are women who were previously undesired by guys half their age and thanks to the media addressing this subject, look at all the power they have now.

I tell these women I'm in my 40's. This is the best attack for these women. If I tell them my real age, they're liable to tell me some crap like "Oh, you can be my son, I'm old enough to be your momma, You need a girl your age." It's all bullsh*t, but you can call it what you want, but the end result is that she's not f**king you.

Most cougars like to be romanced and kissed. There was one who was 63 and she apparently liked the fact I had the balls to talk to her. I kissed her hand and then we eventually started making out in the parking lot. My back was hurting some, but we eventually dated. Weeks later, she felt it was inappropriate for her to rock the cradle and that I needed to date my age. Thankfully, she already drank my jizz.

I am working on somebody who's 50 right now. If you're attractive in a way, these women will talk to you. Just read my sig.

Case closed.

 

[PapiChulo]

Cougars love the attention from younger guys- it boosts their egos that much more, other than this a younger guy has no real edge over an older gentelman that's in great shape. The other thing is that a woman does not get wiser with age, perhaps she may even become crazier instead, hence they are no different from younger women at all. The only difference I have encountered is for women over 50 with looks rapidly declining. It is right at the point where men their age pay little to no attention to them, and are rather be screwing young women, that's when you are at an advantage. Also keep in mind that some older women have low libido! In my experience it is largely a myth about the sex crazed cougars. Nismo made a good point there about the cougar needing romance and a real connection. Most of them aren't oblivious to the fact that majority of guys would pork them at least once, but that's not the only thing they are looking for. So if you put forward that sex entitlement vibe,you are basically saying that she is discounted goods, and they can pick up on that.

 

[aura]

I've moved past this situation already. I realized that I didn't really like this girl very much from the beginning, and didn't find her all that attractive from a looks standpoint, either. It's just that there was a real shortage of attractive gals there and that more than anything else is what made her stand out. My MO was "sh-t, I'm already here, I made the investment of time, let's get a return out of it."

I also realize I got caught up in an ego battle of competing with other guys, just as she had engineered, who were competing for her, again in a field where she had little competition.

If a girl starts out as super-manipulative, it does not bode well. Any game I run on her is strictly to develop more technique. Nice.

 

[macagent]

After pondering whether to keep it for hours, you finally decide to throw the fish back, and yet get "jealous, frustrated, & disappointed" when another fisherman nets your rejects?

There's more to look at in your interactions with this person than "developing more technique". Hint: it has nothing to do with them.

 

[aura]

You raise a good point so I'll try to clarify: I've gamed just about everywhere "locally" within a 2 hour's drive. It's pretty fvcking difficult finding hot girls. Hence, I'm perpetually conflicted: should I take it, or should I wait for what I think and feel is a genuinely hot girl?

I am also confused by what I see around me: guys going apesh1t over cute, average or even ugly girls. To put it simply, I don't like fvcking ugly or average girls, and there's a real shortage of cute, much less hot ones.

The only logical decision is to move somewhere else.

 

[Trump]

I ran into a very rare situation this weekend: a cougar who actually required time to game. Cougars for me, usually take about 1-5 seconds, and maybe a few minutes tops before they let me know they are ready for sex.

Not this kitten. This girl required HOURS. Not seconds, not minutes, HOURS before she showed her hands. Just as I started typing this, I realized how strong of a sense of entitlement I had that night. She can take as long as she wants, it's her choice. I can either choose to keep pursuing or let the fish back in the ocean.

I chose the latter. I got irritated with her constant push pull instead of choosing to remain calm and indifferent or amused. As a result, another guy walked her out of the party.

So now, I am feeling regret that I didn't push harder, and jealous that another guy walked out with her. All of the other bullsh1t about guys kissing my butt was just a way of distracting myself from my own disappointment at how things worked out.

As a result of not pushing hard enough, I am left with some frustrating pointless questions:

-did she sleep with him?

And some sobering realities:

-it's probably pointless to pursue her now....

Anyway, a night of frustration and disappointment: tell me there's a silver lining, please.

It's not a matter of you "pushing harder", it's a matter of you working on your salesmanship skills. Whatever it was, she wasn't buying what you were selling. Whatever the other guy had, she bought very quickly.

Don''t take it so personally, sometimes you can't make the sale, but you should have had a feeling within the first 5-10 min whether she was biting or not.

 

[Mike32ct]

I feel your pain. The most painful part of this game, IMO, is when you see a female you've been gaming leave with another guy. That really gets to me when it happens. But you can't avoid that. If you want to win big in this game, you have to be prepared to lose big.

When a female is running hot and cold, we have a tendency to stay with her and keep trying to game her. But that is only good to a point. Eventually, you either need to cut your loses and eject, or if you aren't completely sure, lay your cards on the table. Say something like "Im gonna get out of here so I can relax and watch tv. You should come too.". Then see how she reacts. You either take her home or eject.

Cougars are not necessarily easier. Older women can sometimes be more conservative and harder to score, even though she F-Ed a football team in her 20s. With many women, after say 34, her virginity comes back.

Plus they feel entitled (to attractive young sausage). Plus she has lots of experience with mens' games.

 

[Mike32ct]

The primary advantage with mature women is less c@ckblocking. They can be confident enough to go out alone. So if you are into lone wolfs like me, it's perfect.

Plus, even if she has a girlfriend with her, they have a more mature attitude about sex usually. The friend is FAR more likely to give you permission to F your target at 36 than say 22. C@ckblcking is largely a young girls' game.

 

[aura]

I ran very little game, maybe 5-10 min. of low-key conversation. That was pretty much it. After that, she left, and I said fvck it.

She came back to me twice on the dance floor to do her stripper/fellatio dance on me. I tried to get her out of there, but I guess my desire to do so was relatively low, as I am not big on cougars.

So, she left with the more aggressive guy. The guy who had been pulling HER on the dance floor, 4, 5, 6X.

As a matter of fact, I didn't even approach this girl at all. I approached her friend, and then we naturally fell into a conversation after the friend left.

So, in actuality, I didn't game her at all. She gamed me. I just didn't game her back. Or if I did, not nearly with the gusto I should or could have.

So there it is. Now, I'm left to wonder why I'm so hurt and confused by this when I didn't even game the girl! I'm only hurt and confused that she gamed me aggressively and I didn't pull when I had the chance.

She therefore left with a lame, aggressive dude, and I'm still jealous! WTF!!!!!

The moral of the story is: I hate to lose (even when I barely play the game), more than I love to win. At least in this scenario.

edit: I'm still reeling over how upset I am, considering how little effort I put into this.

I feel your pain. The most painful part of this game, IMO, is when you see a female you've been gaming leave with another guy. That really gets to me when it happens. But you can't avoid that. If you want to win big in this game, you have to be prepared to lose big.

When a female is running hot and cold, we have a tendency to stay with her and keep trying to game her. But that is only good to a point. Eventually, you either need to cut your loses and eject, or if you aren't completely sure, lay your cards on the table. Say something like "Im gonna get out of here so I can relax and watch tv. You should come too.". Then see how she reacts. You either take her home or eject.

Cougars are not necessarily easier. Older women can sometimes be more conservative and harder to score, even though she F-Ed a football team in her 20s. With many women, after say 34, her virginity comes back.

Plus they feel entitled (to attractive young sausage). Plus she has lots of experience with mens' games.

 

[AlexDP]

OP, give it up. She's highly likely not interested in you that way. Go get one that takes you 1-5 seconds to get instead.

This is exactly why Judge nismo is working out a lot more. Young women aren't easy. Cougars/ Milfs are no easier. These are women who were previously undesired by guys half their age and thanks to the media addressing this subject, look at all the power they have now.

I tell these women I'm in my 40's. This is the best attack for these women. If I tell them my real age, they're liable to tell me some crap like "Oh, you can be my son, I'm old enough to be your momma, You need a girl your age." It's all bullsh*t, but you can call it what you want, but the end result is that she's not f**king you.

Most cougars like to be romanced and kissed. There was one who was 63 and she apparently liked the fact I had the balls to talk to her. I kissed her hand and then we eventually started making out in the parking lot. My back was hurting some, but we eventually dated. Weeks later, she felt it was inappropriate for her to rock the cradle and that I needed to date my age. Thankfully, she already drank my jizz.

I am working on somebody who's 50 right now. If you're attractive in a way, these women will talk to you. Just read my sig.

Case closed.

63, mate? That's just nasty.

 

[aura]

OP, give it up. She's highly likely not interested in you that way. Go get one that takes you 1-5 seconds to get instead.

This is exactly why Judge nismo is working out a lot more. Young women aren't easy. Cougars/ Milfs are no easier. These are women who were previously undesired by guys half their age and thanks to the media addressing this subject, look at all the power they have now.

I tell these women I'm in my 40's. This is the best attack for these women. If I tell them my real age, they're liable to tell me some crap like "Oh, you can be my son, I'm old enough to be your momma, You need a girl your age." It's all bullsh*t, but you can call it what you want, but the end result is that she's not f**king you.

Most cougars like to be romanced and kissed. There was one who was 63 and she apparently liked the fact I had the balls to talk to her. I kissed her hand and then we eventually started making out in the parking lot. My back was hurting some, but we eventually dated. Weeks later, she felt it was inappropriate for her to rock the cradle and that I needed to date my age. Thankfully, she already drank my jizz.

I am working on somebody who's 50 right now. If you're attractive in a way, these women will talk to you. Just read my sig.

Case closed.

You're 25 chasing 63 year olds. You're the one who needs to give it up, quite frankly.

20 year old guys chasing 60 year olds, guys frequenting gay bars hoping to meet women, what the fvck is up with this forum?

 

[Mike32ct]

So, she left with the more aggressive guy. The guy who had been pulling HER on the dance floor, 4, 5, 6X.

As a matter of fact, I didn't even approach this girl at all. I approached her friend, and then we naturally fell into a conversation after the friend left.

So, in actuality, I didn't game her at all. She gamed me. I just didn't game her back. Or if I did, not nearly with the gusto I should or could have.

So there it is. Now, I'm left to wonder why I'm so hurt and confused by this when I didn't even game the girl! I'm only hurt and confused that she gamed me aggressively and I didn't pull when I had the chance.

She therefore left with a lame, aggressive dude, and I'm still jealous! WTF!!!!!

The moral of the story is: I hate to lose (even when I barely play the game), more than I love to win. At least in this scenario.

edit: I'm still reeling over how upset I am, considering how little effort I put into this.

This happens. You don't run your best game because you aren't that attracted to her. Then some other guy pulls her. Then maybe you don't meet any more good prospects that night. So although she wasn't the prom queen, you feel a little envious because (presumably) at least the other dude got laid.

I've been there too.

 

[aura]

What's upsetting to me is not the girl, it's not even the desperation of the guys.

It's the fact that I'm being effected by this attitude of desperation; I'm getting swept up in the desperation over girls I don't really want to date. I can see how people can become shaped by their environment and then forget that things don't have to be that way.

It's time to move. It's BEEN time to move.

 

[aura]

I just realized that was a great fvcking night: it forced me to realize that other so-called men have no ****ing standards whatsoever. And I realized that I was stooping to their level, fighting over scraps when I could be eating gourmet.

I have no control over other people: if they want to settle for busted chicks, more power to 'em. I refuse to go after skanks, or to even let them game me.

Enjoy that 63 year old snagglepuss, guys.

 

[PapiChulo]

I just realized that was a great fvcking night: it forced me to realize that other so-called men have no ****ing standards whatsoever. And I realized that I was stooping to their level, fighting over scraps when I could be eating gourmet.

I have no control over other people: if they want to settle for busted chicks, more power to 'em. I refuse to go after skanks, or to even let them game me.

Enjoy that 63 year old snagglepuss, guys.

Sorry dude, but I don't believe you on this one.

 

[AlexDP]

I just realized that was a great fvcking night: it forced me to realize that other so-called men have no ****ing standards whatsoever. And I realized that I was stooping to their level, fighting over scraps when I could be eating gourmet.

I have no control over other people: if they want to settle for busted chicks, more power to 'em. I refuse to go after skanks, or to even let them game me.

Enjoy that 63 year old snagglepuss, guys.

It doesn't work that way, mate. You couldn't get the cougar. This means you're not particularly goodlooking, funny or virile. Otherwise she would have gone with you. If the cougar doesn't want you, the quality pvssy doesn't want you either. And why would she? She can obviously have better guys. Hell, the cougar can get better guys. So no matter what you think, you should work on improving yourself. Higher standards doesn't mean you get to bang beautiful women all of a sudden. It just means you don't have to go through the process of begging a 60 year old for sex. Which is good in itself though.