"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Coping with the fact that i'm ugly and get a g/f

ImprovingJuan

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Don't worry you are not that ugly. You just need confidence

Do you guys that patronize me accept that ugly people actually exist? You're fools if you don't, just walk down the average high street. I guarantee you will see plenty of ugly people. So ugly people are everywhere, yet when it comes to internet, they all disappear. Everyone is told you're not ugly, stop worrying, it's a mental thing. You just need a shrink, you are low on testosterone or you need confidence.

Personally I think people don't want to admit they are shallow, that they judge people based on looks. So they have to deny anyone is ugly.

I am ugly, so many women have told me that to my face. I simply don't appeal to them in anyway and it has ruined my life. So don't tell me that ugly people don't ****ing exist and looks have nothing to do with being incel. That is simply bull****.

"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Its what's inside that counts"

Beholders are liars, retarded, or both.

I'm bald, i'm ugly. No redeeming qualities whatsoever. I'm totally and utterly ****ed. I've tried everything on the dj book yet i am rejected, i am completely destroyed every ****in time they say no, i'm not interested. I even lost count of the rejections.

Women have no interest in guys with garbage genetics and they sure wont **** a guy they think is ugly as hell. no matter how much confidence he think he has.

As for gym? Body wont save you if you have a face only a mother would love. And you guys say. But your title on sosuave says Senior Don Juan. How come?

It's just an internet title guys, dont be deluded. Looks is all that they care for nowadays no matter what tricks and strategies you pull. You need a dose of good looks for those to work as well.


I'm 41 and I'm really thinking about ending it all. I'm tired of living, at least some ugly guys have friends or family. I have nothing. I have an appointment with a shrink on 11th of July, but nothing he says is going to help me out or make a difference.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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ImprovingJuan

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Oh btw i have a "g/f", someone who sees me like 2 times a week, goes to the beach, bars with her friends and has no time for me. She wants to be with me when its convenient for her and i go along with this like a loser because i know i wont find anyone else.
 

wifehunter

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Drop her. Work on yourself.
 

Dingo

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Jesus... dude...

There is so much more in life than just women...

You're 41 years old you should know that by now.

Oh and by the way.... I wish I had a girlfriend that would want to see me 2-3 times a week and leave me the **** alone the rest of the time...
 

Billtx49

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True confidence means not accepting being a woman's plan B.
And yes, the shrink can help you.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Ok then, so you're ugly. So what? The most important lesson on this forum to achieve happiness still applies, even if you're the ugliest guy out there. Stop basing your damn self-esteem on what other people think of you.

Even if you're physically ugly, you still have a chance. Fixing up your mind and personality will go a loooong way making you significantly more attractive, that is something you CAN change. You're not an incel, because you CAN fucking do something about it. But you're not into accepting that possibility.

If you don't want to accept help and your only purpose is for us to validate your belief that you're ugly, then please quit posting. I hate seeing hopeless people who don't even want to change.
 

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You have posted your pictures here before. You are in fact not that ugly. There are way too many guys out there that are uglier than you. Perhaps what others see as ugly is your attitude and mannerism that is expressed through your vibe, which may have turned some people off. Appeal is not simply physical features, but everything roll into one.

Men's value is not decided by how popular they are among women and how attractive those women are. Your self-worth comes from within, how you see yourself. How others see you cannot and should not take that away from you.
 

SmooveMooves

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This guy needs an Ip ban and to be reported to authorities. He keeps threatening suicide. Last thing this site needs is ties to that.
 

cola

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Lets be honest here..

Nice looking guys with nice beach bodies don't need so suave.

Dare I say 2/3rds of guys here are
Below average looks, dress crappy, are nerds or slightly autistic.
Just being honest.


Regardless of how "afc/beta" you are, If you have model good looks there are chicks who will overlook all that because you are hot.
If you are that good looking, you can literally just stand at the bar with a beer and you will be approached.


Now to your issue. It's really simple.
Date down.
If your a 10 date 8s.
If your a 5 date 4s.
If your a 4 date 3s.

Long as your getting consistent sex who cares..
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Oh btw i have a "g/f", someone who sees me like 2 times a week, goes to the beach, bars with her friends and has no time for me. She wants to be with me when its convenient for her and i go along with this like a loser because i know i wont find anyone else.
Dude this stupid a$$ broad got you thinking like this. Drop her. She's not good for you.
 

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Don't worry you are not that ugly. You just need confidence

Do you guys that patronize me accept that ugly people actually exist? You're fools if you don't, just walk down the average high street. I guarantee you will see plenty of ugly people. So ugly people are everywhere, yet when it comes to internet, they all disappear. Everyone is told you're not ugly, stop worrying, it's a mental thing. You just need a shrink, you are low on testosterone or you need confidence.

Personally I think people don't want to admit they are shallow, that they judge people based on looks. So they have to deny anyone is ugly.

I am ugly, so many women have told me that to my face. I simply don't appeal to them in anyway and it has ruined my life. So don't tell me that ugly people don't ****ing exist and looks have nothing to do with being incel. That is simply bull****.

"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Its what's inside that counts"

Beholders are liars, retarded, or both.

I'm bald, i'm ugly. No redeeming qualities whatsoever. I'm totally and utterly ****ed. I've tried everything on the dj book yet i am rejected, i am completely destroyed every ****in time they say no, i'm not interested. I even lost count of the rejections.

Women have no interest in guys with garbage genetics and they sure wont **** a guy they think is ugly as hell. no matter how much confidence he think he has.

As for gym? Body wont save you if you have a face only a mother would love. And you guys say. But your title on sosuave says Senior Don Juan. How come?

It's just an internet title guys, dont be deluded. Looks is all that they care for nowadays no matter what tricks and strategies you pull. You need a dose of good looks for those to work as well.


I'm 41 and I'm really thinking about ending it all. I'm tired of living, at least some ugly guys have friends or family. I have nothing. I have an appointment with a shrink on 11th of July, but nothing he says is going to help me out or make a difference.
Why don't you try Jesus?
 

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This guy needs an Ip ban and to be reported to authorities. He keeps threatening suicide. Last thing this site needs is ties to that.
Relax, this guy has posted all over the internet about this and gotten similar responses. He simply will not listen to any of it. The chance of any focused negative attention landing on us in case he does kill himself is relatively small.

I googled the imgur link he posted earlier, results show several forums including Yahoo answers and several Reddit posts. The imgur user is deleted though, so I never got to see how this guy isn't as ugly as he thinks. (Edit: found it all)

@ImprovingJuan You have gotten your answers, now get off the internet and quit your attention whoring.

EDIT:
Is anyone else getting flashbacks of "The Lone Wolf Legend"?
This IS the same user. I checked out one of the Reddit links I got from searching his imgur link, it's posted by a user named picollo30. Which is a username that also came up through posts by the user you mention. It really is that guy with BDD and rock bottom self-esteem.

@ImprovingJuan I have replied several times on your previous account. You are not ugly, get over it.

Edit 2: I don't think this is the same user, but ImprovingJuan has been here before under a different name.
 
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EDIT:

This IS the same user. I checked out one of the Reddit links I got from searching his imgur link, it's posted by a user named picollo30. Which is a username that also came up through posts by the user you mention. It really is that guy with BDD and rock bottom self-esteem.

@ImprovingJuan I have replied several times on your previous account. You are not ugly, get over it.

Edit 2: I don't think this is the same user, but ImprovingJuan has been here before under a different name.
It's the same retarded M.O. i.e. rehashing the same dumbass questions over and over in 15 different ways without ever listening to the answers or applying them.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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It's the same retarded M.O. i.e. rehashing the same dumbass questions over and over in 15 different ways without ever listening to the answers or applying them.
I don't think it is, thelonewolflegend didn't obsess about being ugly to this extent. @ImprovingJuan is @Clueless2k16 also known as picollo30 and several other aliases on other forums. There's a huge trail of posts like this scattered across the internet by this guy, all of them talking about how ugly he thinks he looks.

Here's a thread of him talking about (you guessed it) how ugly he is using the other account. http://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/dont-worry-youll-find-someone-someday.235148/
 
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