"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Converting to day 2's, and 3s and 4s

The Inside Man

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Whats up guys..

I am in a town where most people are under 25 and partying on the weekend is the norm for almost everyone. Not the typical situation I am used to in the big city..

Wanted to hear some of your advice.. I've been meeting, dancing with, and sometimes making out with girls I meet. Except the first time that's happened, they have all have been hot, in my opinion. The first one was just cute, but that got the ball rolling and my confidence up.

My challenge seems to be converting from a fun night of drinking (alot) and dancing, to a sober day 2 or STR. I am also in a college town and most of the women I am meeting are 5 years younger than me or more.

I don't follow any set rules for callback, just when I have something going on I ask them to join ( like a intramural sports practice during the week). Could be the next day or later on in the week.

So you guys think I should be waiting longer to call them, later on in the week when I am out partying ? Or should I keep trying to get day 2s for a sober action date.

Especially in a town where everyone is drunk all weekend, it seems like two different worlds hanging out sober and hanging out partying. How can I bridge the gap with some of these hotties I've been meeting? My age so far has been a plus and the attention from girls when we're out is great. But I want some of that during the week too.

I've been doing this for a while now and can tell signs of interest, I've had girls take me out to the dance floor several times, as well as the EC and obviously the making out and close grinding with only me.. So they appear to have high IL the night we meet.

Open to suggestions.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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The Inside Man

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I think the lack of responses and 85 views says it all. I have been getting some good advice from the flaking thread though, anyone who's having similar issues should check it out.
 

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I know what you mean. Women do have a different personality when they're drunk. They become more honest with their emotions, they don't test you, and they don't play their stupid mind games.

Can't offer any suggestions, though. Lately, I've been preferring them a little tipsy but not too drunk. Just enough to let her be more herself.
 

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My advice with college chicks is to not expect much continuity out of them. Especially if you are meeting them partying---young girls are creatures of the present and you would be best served pushing the envelope as far as you can that night. You'll be MUCH more likely for follow-up hang-outs if you have already laid them.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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