Conversations with peers/coworkers on don juan beliefs..

[cola]

Hello
Im 19 years old as many of you know, and I never claim to be a pick up artists or anything but when I relay some of the theories here about women I get responses like im "insane" or my personal favorite...
"someone must have hurt you really bad"..
And the ever so cliche
"When you find that "one" your whole opinion is going to change"...

Yeah right I call bull****..
And the stuff I say isnt really that extremist I dont think, I'll say things like
"I dont like to see my girlfriend more than xx days of the week" and people go nuts and blow up on me..
Or another one that started a heated debate
"Women don't like nice guys"..
Or "Women dont know what they want"


So someone please help me?
These are my beliefs,and were my beliefs before so suave and will be until the world proves me wrong but anyone else have this problem?
Or is it just best to stay out of these conversations?

 

[Michele l'Arcangelo]

Seems like YOU bring up these conversations because YOU like to talk about yourself. You want to sound wise and different compared to other guys. My best bet is you're speaking to both females and males, but mainly females... and you hope a certain females you're interested in is listening in, so you can set yourself apart and be the indifferent alpha male.

In other words, stop trying to draw attention. The conversation is stupid to bring up.

Why talk about it when you can just show it?

Your ideas are correct, nonetheless, but it's pointless to bring it up to irrational people.

Even if your ideas are correct, they mean jackshit when you're not applying it to the real world situations... judging from the fact you CARE what they think of you, and reacting to them calling you insane

 

[mikeraw]

Dude, don't discuss any aspect of the game with AFCs, women, and/or other people that are plugged into the matrix... no matter how cool, mature, or interesting you think you may sound.

 

[The Comeback Kid]

I agree with the others here. Although you may be right on these topics, people who are unaware with these things will assume you're bragging, which makes you appear arrogant. Girls don't like arrogant guys or guys who think they have women all figured out.

 

[Hughman]

Don't discuss being a DJ except with those you know to be at least PUAs.

I'd say you can show 'pointers' to those you trust. I've discussed the 'game with 3 of my 'bros' and my best female friend. One 'bro' was in a same pickle as me, but is more of a natural and has better access to parties/new women, and he found this site with me, but he's only issue is the one-itis he's prone to suffer from and hasn't joined the community. He prefers being a PUA.

My other bro was highly skeptical until I reason with him for an hour. He still feels the nice guy will win in the end, but agrees that being a pu$$y and being a tampon is not going to get you anywhere, but also feels being sexually forward from the start is risky in the UK, at least till uni.

My last bro, my best friend, is fighting me to the end. He says British girls are too polar. You either have to befriend first for ages, or you do them the first night. He doesn't feel the idea of 'dates' before a relationship is accepted in the UK, and you'll scare women off with that attitude (he might have a point on that though, at least for HS). Then again, he was in a 14 month LTR till 2 weeks ago, and as far as I am aware, he got nothing more than a good snog.

My female friend didn't say much, but agrees that the 'cool' guy (that is, for a better word for it, a true DJ, not a PUA) will get the girls he wants. Also feels that being forward is ultimately better than trying to form something from a friendship or passive actions.

 

[TheBucketOfTruth]

Don't talk to this stuff with anyone but your friends. It's not really an interesting topic for the reason that most people can't have a real conversation about it and won't want to hear what you're saying.