"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Conversation after a few dates

Ricky

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Guys I know that keeping a conversation focused on the girl is a great strategy for the first few dates. It keeps it easy on you and the girl loves it.

However after a few dates if the girl sees how you are remaining a mystery and calls you out on it, how would you start steering conversations.

I really don't want to tell my life story and I'm not the type of guy that goes out and sees alot of movies (notice how alot of conversations relate to something seen on movies or TV?)

So what type of topics do you like to bring up?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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DeathDealer

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There is nothing wrong about talking about what you did last weekend or if you're planning a trip somewhere.

Being a mystery is okay the first couple of dates or meetings, but after that you want to show that you have a life.
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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Yeah, exchange stories about what each of you did the previous week. I know it seems a bit lame but I ask about what's going on with them at work. I keep up with it as if it were a soap opera. Women seem to like to be able to vent about those things, usually afterward they are a bit more refreshed and receptive to all kinds of kino. ;)
 

frenchlover

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I guess it depends on how old you are.
watch CNN or read the paper. read reviews on independent films(chicks love them), and mention how you want to see one (just lie). ask her where her favorite place to travel is or where she'd like to go.
ask her if she has siblings and if she is close to them.

there are a few
 
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