So i just freaking over one girl...and then i dont learn from my mistakes. I met a girl after my company xmas party (not from my work)..VERY hot. I end up going back to her place..staying up all night..could not seal the deal but heavy fooling around for hours. She drops me off in the morning.. really wanted me to have her number and for me to call her phone..she starts texting later that day and sat. So i ask her if she wants to grab some wine one night and she eagerly replies "sure, let me know when". The problem is im partly lazy, she also mentioned that she was just sitting around already drinking some with her roomie.. i ignore that. Sunday she starts texting again...invites me down to a bar where her and her friends are watching the game..i was beat so i make an excuse...to which she replies "have fun". After that she seems to be less interested and I've asked her about the weekend but now apparently the only shot I have is if she happens to be out with her friends already..which is definitely a change..what would be the best way to put this on the right track? Call her in a couple days and show interest??
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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- Thread starter drf408
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"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
sharkbeat
Master Don Juan
"Hey, I am going [insert an activity here] this Saturday! Do you want to come?"
I did ask to do something thursday which she couldnt do because of work so i said Saturday she replied "Yeah maybe Sat. All my GFs finished finals so im sure we'll be celebrating downtown". The sad thing is had this girl trying to get to me and now shes stand offish. I think i get in the habit of thinking 1 good time with a girl and you're in, however women obviously don't think that way, takes a little follow up effort. I guarantee if I made a move this past weekend i wouldnt be posting.
This is my biggest problem, this is not to brag at all as I would have to say im generally more dissapointed than not but I fall into women all the time..and usually do fairly well but I usually miss out on more than I succeed with, especially the best ones which is is why I am more unhappy than happy in regards to women. I think i've given her the "shes nothing special vibe" and the idea that she was nothing more than a potential 1 night stand. I want to game her badly..but i need to take control of the situation. Not sure "I should be out with my friends" puts me in a good situation? What should i respond with to that?
This is my biggest problem, this is not to brag at all as I would have to say im generally more dissapointed than not but I fall into women all the time..and usually do fairly well but I usually miss out on more than I succeed with, especially the best ones which is is why I am more unhappy than happy in regards to women. I think i've given her the "shes nothing special vibe" and the idea that she was nothing more than a potential 1 night stand. I want to game her badly..but i need to take control of the situation. Not sure "I should be out with my friends" puts me in a good situation? What should i respond with to that?
sharkbeat
Master Don Juan
Of course it is, but you shouldn't be going out with them (all girls with just you alone is just weird, unless you know all her friends). You should rather "bump" into them. "My buddies and I are going downtown too, I'll see you there!" or whatever
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
sharkbeat
Master Don Juan
Step backwards? That's what wings are for. To entertain her friends, while you making the move to the chick you like.drf408 said:
I am going to actively work on kicking the passiveness, only way I'm going to be happy. I'm just kicking myself with this one..i was already in there and couldve probably hooked up over the weekend..now its in her court and my chances are lower, i will have to work it for sure..but I'll try 
Dannyrt34
Master Don Juan
lol, for some reason I thought this part was kind of funny.drf408 said:
I wish it was funny But i shoot myself in the foot..it's not looking good on this front or the other 1 I had going. I am great at getting these opportunities which for most is the hardest part, but for me I blow them before I can make good.
But i shoot myself in the foot..it's not looking good on this front or the other 1 I had going. I am great at getting these opportunities which for most is the hardest part, but for me I blow them before I can make good.