"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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I was talking with some of my friends and they said that I am coming over as needy against woman.
I find that no problem and I am trying to fix that, but they gave me advice that confuses me.
I am getting more uncertain about what to do with woman.

What I normally do is.
1) Talk to them
2) get their phone number
3) go for a drink with them. This is mostly 1 or 2 days after getting their number.if they don't want to, I say ok and I end it there.

my friends say that this is totally wrong and that I should wait around 1 to 2 weeks with asking to go for drink. Hell 1 said 3 months with only talking talking and talking trough whatsapp.

Is it all vague or is there some kind of "rule book" that I can follow?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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I was talking with some of my friends and they said that I am coming over as needy against woman.
I find that no problem and I am trying to fix that, but they gave me advice that confuses me.
I am getting more uncertain about what to do with woman.

What I normally do is.
1) Talk to them
2) get their phone number
3) go for a drink with them. This is mostly 1 or 2 days after getting their number.if they don't want to, I say ok and I end it there.

my friends say that this is totally wrong and that I should wait around 1 to 2 weeks with asking to go for drink. Hell 1 said 3 months with only talking talking and talking trough whatsapp.

Is it all vague or is there some kind of "rule book" that I can follow?
There's no rule book, only opinions.
 

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I was talking with some of my friends and they said that I am coming over as needy against woman.
I find that no problem and I am trying to fix that, but they gave me advice that confuses me.
I am getting more uncertain about what to do with woman.

What I normally do is.
1) Talk to them
2) get their phone number
3) go for a drink with them. This is mostly 1 or 2 days after getting their number.if they don't want to, I say ok and I end it there.

my friends say that this is totally wrong and that I should wait around 1 to 2 weeks with asking to go for drink. Hell 1 said 3 months with only talking talking and talking trough whatsapp.

Is it all vague or is there some kind of "rule book" that I can follow?
Unless your friends are pulling lots of great looking women as opposed to what you are doing, why would you listen to anything they say?
 

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Unless your friends are pulling lots of great looking women as opposed to what you are doing, why would you listen to anything they say?
This. Be careful of who you're taking advice from. Once you're red pill and/or game aware you'll start to see things differently than most people. The games they think are so slick and suave are really just pathetic played out trash that looks good but has no substance or results.

A lot of guys talk a big game but are actually pathetic little boys around their girls.
 

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I was talking with some of my friends and they said that I am coming over as needy against woman.
I find that no problem and I am trying to fix that, but they gave me advice that confuses me.
I am getting more uncertain about what to do with woman.

What I normally do is.
1) Talk to them
2) get their phone number
3) go for a drink with them. This is mostly 1 or 2 days after getting their number.if they don't want to, I say ok and I end it there.

my friends say that this is totally wrong and that I should wait around 1 to 2 weeks with asking to go for drink. Hell 1 said 3 months with only talking talking and talking trough whatsapp.

Is it all vague or is there some kind of "rule book" that I can follow?
Your friends don't get laid much do they?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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There's no rule book, only opinions.
I'll keep this in my head

Unless your friends are pulling lots of great looking women as opposed to what you are doing, why would you listen to anything they say?
Your friends don't get laid much do they?
They don't really. None of them go after hot girls or even go after the girls.
I also didn't go after the girls, but I want to change that and be more confident by doing it.

This. Be careful of who you're taking advice from. Once you're red pill and/or game aware you'll start to see things differently than most people. The games they think are so slick and suave are really just pathetic played out trash that looks good but has no substance or results.

A lot of guys talk a big game but are actually pathetic little boys around their girls.
I should be taking every advice from friends about this with a grain of salt, but it made me confused.
I am a type of guy that listings thinks about everything if it is told to me. It is sometimes good but as sometimes bad.

Maintain solid, unforgiving, piercing eye contact with a woman and you can male her yours.

80% of what you say to a woman doesn't come out of your mouth.
Like 80 % body language, isn't it ?

Thanks for the advice everybody, I will practice and become a more confident and better man.
 

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Dude ur doing great, make the girl wait a little sometimes(no more then 7 days) see if that changes anything.... Be scientific about it... Certainly not months tho interest value will drop like a brick and ur probably friendzoned!
 

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Its okay to hear your friends out. But it's more important to listen to and emulate people that are successful at what you'd like to do.
Too bad I don't know a person that is a DJ. Got to become one myself.

Dude ur doing great, make the girl wait a little sometimes(no more then 7 days) see if that changes anything.... Be scientific about it... Certainly not months tho interest value will drop like a brick and ur probably friendzoned!
What I like to do is experiment a little bit with girls, just to know what is wrong and what is right.
I know that I will fail most of the times, but **** it, there are a lot of girls that are fun.
 
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