"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Okay guys, please don't bust my balls over this.

So, I've met a girl online about a month ago. This entire situation is kind of.. immature and I would really just want to set it aside and move on, but I need to know what happened exactly.

I met the girl online a month ago through some friends, we ended up chatting and it went quite well. Got her to give me her number that same night and we started talking more, flirting, goofy C&F talks until we eventually started building rapport.

Quickly after the conversations started heating up and we ended up having phone sex. (Mind she is in Italy, I'm on the other side of the world.) Again, I know that she is nothing special, and no man should cling to ***** a few thousand miles away, but I need to know what happened.

The problem is this:
She REFUSED to send me pictures whatsoever, keep in mind she is extremely shy BUT I have already seen what she looked like, several times. (Facebook and such) This bothered me to no end, trying to persuade her to send me something (in an aloof way) every night. She flat out refused every time, till it got to a point where I was done and I broke it off.

She seems to be harboring hateful and vindictive feelings, because she is trying to make me jealous etc. (in an obvious way) Which is failing horribly.

My question to you, what the hell happened here and why the big deal? Trying to move on, but I'm too confused about all this. Thanks for reading this super tl;dr story.

P.S: I am not talking about naked pictures, just NORMAL pictures of any kind at all.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I wouldn't take her not wanting to send you pictures as personal at this point. More women than not are scared of their naked picture ending up on the Internet. Can't blame them on that one. On the other hand, talk to her a while and maybe when she is more comfortable with you she may change her mind. Good luck.
 

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logicallefty said:
I wouldn't take her not wanting to send you pictures as personal at this point. More women than not are scared of their naked picture ending up on the Internet. Can't blame them on that one. On the other hand, talk to her a while and maybe when she is more comfortable with you she may change her mind. Good luck.
The thing is, I never asked for naked pictures, of any kind at all. Just a normal picture of any kind would have been fine.

So, I should get in contact with her again and just wait it out till she is comfortable enough to share them?
 

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She is an Attention Whoore.

You just got used as her amusement to fill in her life of boredom.

Cut your losses and stop fvcking around with women who mind game you and long distance.

What a waste of time and life energy.

Be well

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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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MHCha said:
Okay guys, please don't bust my balls over this.

So, I've met a girl online about a month ago. This entire situation is kind of.. immature and I would really just want to set it aside and move on, but I need to know what happened exactly.

I met the girl online a month ago through some friends, we ended up chatting and it went quite well. Got her to give me her number that same night and we started talking more, flirting, goofy C&F talks until we eventually started building rapport.

Quickly after the conversations started heating up and we ended up having phone sex. (Mind she is in Italy, I'm on the other side of the world.) Again, I know that she is nothing special, and no man should cling to ***** a few thousand miles away, but I need to know what happened.

The problem is this:
She REFUSED to send me pictures whatsoever, keep in mind she is extremely shy BUT I have already seen what she looked like, several times. (Facebook and such) This bothered me to no end, trying to persuade her to send me something (in an aloof way) every night. She flat out refused every time, till it got to a point where I was done and I broke it off.

She seems to be harboring hateful and vindictive feelings, because she is trying to make me jealous etc. (in an obvious way) Which is failing horribly.

My question to you, what the hell happened here and why the big deal?
First of all bro she can't be extremely shy if she's having phone sex with you.

Second of all it's not failing horribly because it's caught your attention and you have valued it.

Third if she sends you a picture it means she is serious and cares about a relationship, which she doesn't. A girl who is having phone sex but refuses to send a picture is having fun. :wave:
 

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Got it, thanks guys. I think I understand it now, good thing I am spinning a few plates.
 
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