"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Confused With Regard to the Mall Approach

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Yesterday I'm at the mall and a see this amazingly hot 9.6 5'7 tanned model figure venezuelan looking bombshell a step above me in the escalator.

Normally never get approach anxiety, but here I got hit with it bigtime.

My question is, how do I approach without making look like I'm putting her on a pedestal? Doesn't going up and talking to her in a mall automatically make her feel like a goddess?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Approaching doesn't put her on a pedestral, you do as you are even inventing the "9.6", I thought 9.5 would be enough to decribe beautiful women by now^^ If you don't put her on a pedestral then she isn't going to be up there, it really just is an inner game issue.
 

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Al Moh. said:
Approaching doesn't put her on a pedestral, you do as you are even inventing the "9.6", I thought 9.5 would be enough to decribe beautiful women by now^^ If you don't put her on a pedestral then she isn't going to be up there, it really just is an inner game issue.

I live in a country where women don't get approached at all (traditional/conservative asian city), however, although still difficult, I have been able to make do at clubs, parties, even at the gym.

But in a mall, the last thing a woman expects is for a guy to approach them, all I'm asking is for a suggestion.

My inner game is fine, every guy in sosuave is beneath me.
 

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If every guy here is beneath you, why are you asking our opinion?
 

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the_govner said:
Yesterday I'm at the mall and a see this amazingly hot 9.6 5'7 tanned model figure venezuelan looking bombshell a step above me in the escalator.

Normally never get approach anxiety, but here I got hit with it bigtime.

My question is, how do I approach without making look like I'm putting her on a pedestal? Doesn't going up and talking to her in a mall automatically make her feel like a goddess?

Here's some advice. Stop thinking and just do it. Quit physching yourself out with that pedastel non sense. The important thing is to get comfortable and action is the only way to do it.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Its ridiculous how guys put girls on a pedestal...sometimes they don't even think of themselves as highly as you do. I slept with this girl who was a 9 the other day. We did everythine except full sex, and she seemed a little cold in the morning.

I talked to her on facebook chat and basically asked what the deal was....she told me (and this is not for bragging purporses - I'm an 8 in attractivness at best) "You're so awesome and attractive and way out of my league...I just don't think you really like me that much" (I do)....to which I was very shocked obviously - this girl's model-worthy. I explained this to her and we're fine now and still seeing each other.

Point is, all girls have their insecurities - if you can project the fact that you don't have any and show yourself to be equally confident around ALL women, then its more than likely they will be attracted to you as long as you're somewhat attractive physically.

I no longer use the rating scale. At least not in the traditional way. I saw a post somewhere where the guy says that he goes in with the mindset that "all girls are 6s until proven otherwise" which is something I've adopted....it really helps with not putting girls on pedestals, and at the end of the day, sex is sex regardless of what they look like.
 

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the_govner said:
Yesterday I'm at the mall and a see this amazingly hot 9.6 5'7 tanned model figure venezuelan looking bombshell a step above me in the escalator.

Normally never get approach anxiety, but here I got hit with it bigtime.

My question is, how do I approach without making look like I'm putting her on a pedestal? Doesn't going up and talking to her in a mall automatically make her feel like a goddess?

"Hi, my name is the govner!"
 
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L777 said:
Its ridiculous how guys put girls on a pedestal...sometimes they don't even think of themselves as highly as you do. I slept with this girl who was a 9 the other day. We did everythine except full sex, and she seemed a little cold in the morning.

I talked to her on facebook chat and basically asked what the deal was....she told me (and this is not for bragging purporses - I'm an 8 in attractivness at best) "You're so awesome and attractive and way out of my league...I just don't think you really like me that much" (I do)....to which I was very shocked obviously - this girl's model-worthy. I explained this to her and we're fine now and still seeing each other.

Point is, all girls have their insecurities - if you can project the fact that you don't have any and show yourself to be equally confident around ALL women, then its more than likely they will be attracted to you as long as you're somewhat attractive physically.

I no longer use the rating scale. At least not in the traditional way. I saw a post somewhere where the guy says that he goes in with the mindset that "all girls are 6s until proven otherwise" which is something I've adopted....it really helps with not putting girls on pedestals, and at the end of the day, sex is sex regardless of what they look like.
agreed...
I dont even think like that though.
Its easy simple manner:
I want her... I get her.
after that its either I'm gonna love as a lover you or control you.
chances are you could be a *****, and I wont hold you like a coffee mug no way, be on your way.

game made easy is it not all you need?
 

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DJCT said:
If every guy here is beneath you, why are you asking our opinion?

Man you guys need to chill. I was just playing.

All I ask for is a good approach at a mall, a good reason to talk to someone at the mall. At a club it's as easy as Hi, I'm ____________ then improvise. But at a mall, especially malls here, women just plain and simple don't get approached and don't expect to get approached, which is why I'm asking for a better reason to go up to a girl apart from Hi, I'm ____________.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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JohnnyCox said:
Make an observation like "hey i have a purse just like it" or "nice earrings"

Notice something most men wouldn't speak about.
not sure about the "i have a purse just like that" line, she might think you're gay ;) but i've used "i like those shoes, my ex had the same pair" which works well cause it's stating the fact that you've had a gf which makes you more desirable. Usually if the girl is interested, she'll keep the convo going or ask for your name, unless she's shy, which then you can try and keep the convo going, but take a hint if she's not interested
 

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Tear Gas said:
not sure about the "i have a purse just like that" line, she might think you're gay ;) but i've used "i like those shoes, my ex had the same pair" which works well cause it's stating the fact that you've had a gf which makes you more desirable. Usually if the girl is interested, she'll keep the convo going or ask for your name, unless she's shy, which then you can try and keep the convo going, but take a hint if she's not interested

Thanks, this seems ok.

What about the "what's your opinion" approach??

Any good examples?
 
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