"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Confused With Regard to the Mall Approach

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Yesterday I'm at the mall and a see this amazingly hot 9.6 5'7 tanned model figure venezuelan looking bombshell a step above me in the escalator.

Normally never get approach anxiety, but here I got hit with it bigtime.

My question is, how do I approach without making look like I'm putting her on a pedestal? Doesn't going up and talking to her in a mall automatically make her feel like a goddess?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Approaching doesn't put her on a pedestral, you do as you are even inventing the "9.6", I thought 9.5 would be enough to decribe beautiful women by now^^ If you don't put her on a pedestral then she isn't going to be up there, it really just is an inner game issue.
 

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Al Moh. said:
Approaching doesn't put her on a pedestral, you do as you are even inventing the "9.6", I thought 9.5 would be enough to decribe beautiful women by now^^ If you don't put her on a pedestral then she isn't going to be up there, it really just is an inner game issue.

I live in a country where women don't get approached at all (traditional/conservative asian city), however, although still difficult, I have been able to make do at clubs, parties, even at the gym.

But in a mall, the last thing a woman expects is for a guy to approach them, all I'm asking is for a suggestion.

My inner game is fine, every guy in sosuave is beneath me.
 

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If every guy here is beneath you, why are you asking our opinion?
 

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the_govner said:
Yesterday I'm at the mall and a see this amazingly hot 9.6 5'7 tanned model figure venezuelan looking bombshell a step above me in the escalator.

Normally never get approach anxiety, but here I got hit with it bigtime.

My question is, how do I approach without making look like I'm putting her on a pedestal? Doesn't going up and talking to her in a mall automatically make her feel like a goddess?

Here's some advice. Stop thinking and just do it. Quit physching yourself out with that pedastel non sense. The important thing is to get comfortable and action is the only way to do it.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Its ridiculous how guys put girls on a pedestal...sometimes they don't even think of themselves as highly as you do. I slept with this girl who was a 9 the other day. We did everythine except full sex, and she seemed a little cold in the morning.

I talked to her on facebook chat and basically asked what the deal was....she told me (and this is not for bragging purporses - I'm an 8 in attractivness at best) "You're so awesome and attractive and way out of my league...I just don't think you really like me that much" (I do)....to which I was very shocked obviously - this girl's model-worthy. I explained this to her and we're fine now and still seeing each other.

Point is, all girls have their insecurities - if you can project the fact that you don't have any and show yourself to be equally confident around ALL women, then its more than likely they will be attracted to you as long as you're somewhat attractive physically.

I no longer use the rating scale. At least not in the traditional way. I saw a post somewhere where the guy says that he goes in with the mindset that "all girls are 6s until proven otherwise" which is something I've adopted....it really helps with not putting girls on pedestals, and at the end of the day, sex is sex regardless of what they look like.
 

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the_govner said:
Yesterday I'm at the mall and a see this amazingly hot 9.6 5'7 tanned model figure venezuelan looking bombshell a step above me in the escalator.

Normally never get approach anxiety, but here I got hit with it bigtime.

My question is, how do I approach without making look like I'm putting her on a pedestal? Doesn't going up and talking to her in a mall automatically make her feel like a goddess?

"Hi, my name is the govner!"
 
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L777 said:
Its ridiculous how guys put girls on a pedestal...sometimes they don't even think of themselves as highly as you do. I slept with this girl who was a 9 the other day. We did everythine except full sex, and she seemed a little cold in the morning.

I talked to her on facebook chat and basically asked what the deal was....she told me (and this is not for bragging purporses - I'm an 8 in attractivness at best) "You're so awesome and attractive and way out of my league...I just don't think you really like me that much" (I do)....to which I was very shocked obviously - this girl's model-worthy. I explained this to her and we're fine now and still seeing each other.

Point is, all girls have their insecurities - if you can project the fact that you don't have any and show yourself to be equally confident around ALL women, then its more than likely they will be attracted to you as long as you're somewhat attractive physically.

I no longer use the rating scale. At least not in the traditional way. I saw a post somewhere where the guy says that he goes in with the mindset that "all girls are 6s until proven otherwise" which is something I've adopted....it really helps with not putting girls on pedestals, and at the end of the day, sex is sex regardless of what they look like.
agreed...
I dont even think like that though.
Its easy simple manner:
I want her... I get her.
after that its either I'm gonna love as a lover you or control you.
chances are you could be a *****, and I wont hold you like a coffee mug no way, be on your way.

game made easy is it not all you need?
 

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DJCT said:
If every guy here is beneath you, why are you asking our opinion?

Man you guys need to chill. I was just playing.

All I ask for is a good approach at a mall, a good reason to talk to someone at the mall. At a club it's as easy as Hi, I'm ____________ then improvise. But at a mall, especially malls here, women just plain and simple don't get approached and don't expect to get approached, which is why I'm asking for a better reason to go up to a girl apart from Hi, I'm ____________.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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JohnnyCox said:
Make an observation like "hey i have a purse just like it" or "nice earrings"

Notice something most men wouldn't speak about.
not sure about the "i have a purse just like that" line, she might think you're gay ;) but i've used "i like those shoes, my ex had the same pair" which works well cause it's stating the fact that you've had a gf which makes you more desirable. Usually if the girl is interested, she'll keep the convo going or ask for your name, unless she's shy, which then you can try and keep the convo going, but take a hint if she's not interested
 

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Tear Gas said:
not sure about the "i have a purse just like that" line, she might think you're gay ;) but i've used "i like those shoes, my ex had the same pair" which works well cause it's stating the fact that you've had a gf which makes you more desirable. Usually if the girl is interested, she'll keep the convo going or ask for your name, unless she's shy, which then you can try and keep the convo going, but take a hint if she's not interested

Thanks, this seems ok.

What about the "what's your opinion" approach??

Any good examples?
 
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