"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Confused need help please ASAP

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Today i appoarched an american girl today, i had a fullproof plan, coz i saw her going out with friends to a club. I approached her by saying "did u go to a club last week" she said "no" then i was asked her name she told me, i asked where she was from she replied and then i asked her if she'd like to come to a club this weekend she said "ok" so i was happy. Then the dreaded 3 words i asked if i could get her number she doesnt have her phone on her and that she doesnt know it. But said next time i see her i could get it....

Now was that a way of saying shes not interested?

If its not how should i approach her the next time. I dont want to look desperate, but out of all the girls ive approached ive never been as nervous as i have been with her
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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ok. what reason would she have to give you her number? did you have a conversation with her? were the two of you making some kind of plans or...? it's cool that you're approaching and actually talking to women [this is the all important first step] but it sounds to me like you were just nervous and awkward
(for women, nervous+awkward = creepy = no phone number)
and didn't give her a reason to WANT to see you again. you need to gain some skills at a very basic level, and get out there and practice.
btw -- she wasn't interested. don't ask again for her number.
 

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Try getting some, you know, FRIENDS?

These posts sadden me. These interactions sound so artificial... because they ARE.

Human beings don't relate to each other this way... well, the rest of the planet does... wanna-be pick-up artists seem to think otherwise.
 

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Originally posted by smoke city
ok. what reason would she have to give you her number? did you have a conversation with her? were the two of you making some kind of plans or...? it's cool that you're approaching and actually talking to women [this is the all important first step] but it sounds to me like you were just nervous and awkward
(for women, nervous+awkward = creepy = no phone number)
and didn't give her a reason to WANT to see you again. you need to gain some skills at a very basic level, and get out there and practice.
btw -- she wasn't interested. don't ask again for her number.
What if I see her again, ignoring her would make it weird that, one day i asked for her number and the next i ignore.

She said i could get it next time i see her, how should i approach her. Should i not ask for it till she gives it to me?
 
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