"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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confused: let's just be friends?

seabreeze

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Guys, what does it mean when you've shown clear signs of sexual interest in a woman (bragging about your skills, telling her your penis size) and then you decide not to follow through with sex and say "let's just be friends?" I'm trying to figure out why this has been happening to me lately. One guy is a guy i went out with and he asked for sex (repeatedly) after the date and I said no (in a nice way), but that I wanted to another time. Another is a guy I met online about two months ago that I have been having friendly correspondence with. Just recently our messages have become more sexual. He told me about his sexual encounters so I told him about one of mine and he suddenly got weird on me. He made a comment about talking over wine and I didn't reply to that directly, so I wonder if I gave him an ego blow. The first guy said let's just be friends for now when I tried to set up another date. I said friends but no sex. He hasn't contacted me. The second guy I like as a friend so the friendship deal is cool, but I'm curious as to what might have turned him off to having sex.

Are they DJing me or do they really just want to be friends?
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Men have mood swings too: horny and not so horny. If you base your relationship on the prospect of sex alone, then you risk falling into the slvt/ONS category and will lose your appeal as soon as the guy loses his erection.

If you are looking for a relationship or continued dates with these men, I'd advise being less forward sexually and focus on being good company and fun to be around.

Obviously many men are just after the sex, in which case you can't expect much more from them, but being sexually forward will scare off the LTR/dating potential.
 

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Thanks Jariel, what you say makes a lot of sense. But, I'm not looking for a serious relationship right now because that's all I've had. I'm just looking for casual sex for the first time in my life and I thought that men were up for that. I never gave him the impression that I wanted more. Maybe he's in a place where he wants more, but then I'd say why flirt? Why brag about your sexual performance, your penis size and your experiences? It's doubly weird because he says he'd just like to hang out with me, but that he didn't think sex with me was a good idea. Is he trying to kitty-tease me?
SB
 

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Hmmm, then I don't really understand what could be happening, unless they expect you to put out right away, or as you said, unless they are hoping for more.
 

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O my! Guys will hold out on casual sex if they are looking for more?! This is fascinating. Someone care to elaborate? Please?
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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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"Let's just be friends" is a tactic Double-Your-Dating wizard David DeAngelo advocates in his stuff. Maybe this guy is a DeAngelo fan. :)
 

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Thanks for the info, Scrum. Care to share the tactic with me? Or tell me where to find it?
SB;)
 

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I'm guessing you've had issues in the past, maybe abuse, maybe just bad relationships. You're somehow giving off a negative vibe related to those and the men are picking up on it. We're much more perceptive than we get credit for.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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seabreeze

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Yeah, TillTheEnd, I think you must be right about that! I've only been married, never dated but, they were unhappy marriages. but, i only want sex anyway so why would it matter?

CaveD, I'm 38. I thought everybody here knew that!
SB ;)
 

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If you are looking for a relationship or continued dates with these men, I'd advise being less forward sexually and focus on being good company and fun to be around.
Exactly the same thing I'd advise. I will never consider a serious relationship with a woman that's sexually forward from the start, because I'll assume she does this with every guy she dates. I'll hook up, fool around etc, but I'll never consider anything serious with her.

The longer it takes for the girl to open her legs for me, the more I will respect her, and be willing to enter a LTR with her.
 

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telling her your penis size

maybe she heard how small it was and fled!

just kidding. I really don't see how this is a very good idea at all honestly, regardless of size.
 

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Seabreeze, some dudes get cold feet and won't follow through with their rendezvous plans to hook up with you. Or they could have met someone with better assets (younger, tamer/wilder, money, etc.) than you.
 

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They are either losing interest in you or are trynna play you.

I do that to chics when I want to break them.Make them wait.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Originally posted by MindOverMatter
Exactly the same thing I'd advise. I will never consider a serious relationship with a woman that's sexually forward from the start, because I'll assume she does this with every guy she dates. I'll hook up, fool around etc, but I'll never consider anything serious with her.

The longer it takes for the girl to open her legs for me, the more I will respect her, and be willing to enter a LTR with her.
how do you know she didn't fvck with 100+guys, then read in some internet forum how to get a guy for a LTR and so she decided to play the good girl for you? ok, the chance maybe small, but it's not that small!i'm laughing my azz off when somebody tells me how not-slutty his gf is because she didn't give pvssy in the first weeks. lol, yeh but maybe she didn't need sex from you b/c she was fvcking her ex or whoever.
 

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So, maybe am I not a challenge now because I was game for it? I told him that I haven't been with a lot of guys, so I'm thinking maybe that turned him off. But, Tha Realnezz and the Rake make some good points. I know that being older it might be harder for me to compete with the younger chicks. I'm okay with that too because I love being the age that I am. It just sucks because sex feels better for women when they get older and it definitely makes me more willing to do it than when I was younger. Actually, I've been told that i look like I'm between 25 - 28 and I'm starting to see the down side to looking younger. Young guys fall all over me and then they seem to be disappointed when they find out I'm older. And guys my age assume that I'm too young for them and I won't be interested so they don't approach me. Thanks guys.
SB:(
 

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WTF are you talking about past sexual actions and penis size on the first date?

The guy sounds like a loser, he thought bragging would impress you, then chickened out. I doubt this was a tactic by a DJ. Sounds like an AFC.

Avoid those topic in the future and try to be lighthearted and FUN on a date!

Dietzcoi
 
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