"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Confidence/Looks Ratio

Give me a confidence/looks ratio. What is more important based on your experience!

  • 100% confidence, 0% looks

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 75% confidence, 25% looks

    Votes: 5 23.8%
  • 50% confidence, 50% looks

    Votes: 10 47.6%
  • 25% confidence, 75% looks

    Votes: 3 14.3%
  • 0% confidence, 100% looks

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Hard to tell. There are other components that are important too.

    Votes: 3 14.3%

  • Total voters
    21

DiegoSantori

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I know, it's an old subject for discussion but I want to make it a little different. How important is confidence compared to looks? Just give me an exact ratio in percentage.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

Read more...

AttackFormation

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Remember that the halo effect means that good-looking people will be assumed to for example be more confident. That can be part of why women say they want a confident guy, and why they say "he wasn't confident. What they really mean is his looks were/weren't good enough for them to perceive him as confident. So it's hard to say.
 

amazingswayze

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3:1 confidence

i put 75% confidence and 25% looks because I think back to the 6 or 7 girls I've hooked up with, and I realize that my looks only got me 1 girl. She called me cute and I got her number, went to her house a week later.

Every other time was me having the confidence to initiate.

I wish I was blessed with better looks, because game would be easier.

All I can do is work towards a killer body, dress nicer, and keep myself groomed.

what about you guys?
 

Suspens

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BrainDamage92 said:
One comes from the other.
I disagree. A guy with a ripped body could have more confidence than a good looking fatty. A rich fatty with billion dollar business has more confidence than a model, etc
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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BrainDamage92

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Suspens said:
I disagree. A guy with a ripped body could have more confidence than a good looking fatty. A rich fatty with billion dollar business has more confidence than a model, etc

hmmm...

when I think about it, what confidence I hace comes from the fact I look good, like genetically, am tall, father is a Bruce Willis clone, mother is a 45 y old milf (I just hope I dont go bald like him). They are both hyper-intelligent but too idealistic which makes them marginals which I cant make them understand. But mostly, my confidence comes fro mthe fact I am certain 90 % of the people are dumber than me.


But Imma bum who can sweetalk dont mind me :D
 

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I voted 50/50 because I think looks will give you confidence (generally). If girls keep telling you that you are hot you are going to be more.confident that girls will perceive you as hot. PUA gurus call this validation, but it's actually positive feedback.

Conversely, if girls never compliment you, you're likely to experience some doubt (less confidence).
 

skinnyguy

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Agreed with zekko.

Why is it that the hot guys are most confident? Cause they get positive responses from women.

The ugly AFC can't get confidence unless he fakes it. That only lasts so long.

Some ugly dudes might get confidence thru money but they attract gold digging *****s. I'd rather be a broke hot guy because they attract everything.
 

ImTheDoubleGreatest!

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Idk man, having confidence with a weak personality doesn't mean **** to a girl. Looks do matter, but in a more primitive way.
 
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