"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Condom or not?

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I read a topic this morning regarding Condoms and the Pill. I don't know if there has been a discusion on this, but I wanted to get peoples thoughts and response.

It goes like this - You've meet up with a girl, been seeing her for a month or so - Fvcking around on a regular basis. She tells you she's on the pill - Questions.....

1) do you drop the condom?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Continued?

I ask this question because it happened to my friend and he got the chick preganent - he's now married (6 months later) and unhappy..... although he doesn't want to admit he made a mistake.

do you keep using the condom?

Or does it depend on the girl?
 

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I never drop the condom....two of my buddies got their girlfriends pregnant while they were supposedly on the pill...they are now married as well...

-DJLiquid
 

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Personally, I'd be more concerned with STDS.

Unless you've both been tested, she is on the pill, and takes it at the same time every day, using a condom isn't even a thought.

You just wear one.

If you *have* both been tested, and you want to forgo the rubber, you might want to try another method of protection from pregnancy:

- VCF: Vaginal Contraceptive Film; it's a small piece of film, that the girl folds in quarters, and inserts into her vagina up to 4 hours before sex. It's very effective, esp. when paired with the pill. (Note: Girls who are allergic to spermicide may not be able to use this)

- Sponge: Again, the female inserts into her vagina. A barrier method.

- Spermicide: Foam (most often) that can be used as a double-measure to protect against knocking her up.

- Depo-Provera / Norplant Capsules: These are for more LTR, or for girls who want to ensure no possibility of pregnancy for at least 6 months. Depo-Provera is a shot, you recieve every 6 months, and Norplant are small capsules implanted under your skin. I've heard good things, and bad things about both of these, so it's basically up to the girl if she wants to try this.

I'd recommend the VCF if you want to go without a condom, and you're both clean, and trust each other not to cheat.

But a condom is one of the few ways to protect yourself from most STD's with a reasonable level of confidence. Though it *will not* protect from Herpes, genital warts, crabs, or any other topical-skin-transferred afflictions.
 

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If I am going to see a girl for any length of time, I will get tested and make her get tested as well as her get on the pill. After that I will never where a rubber again with her. Obviousely there has to be some level of trustIs there some risk with this approach (possibly). Much more risk everytime I get behind the wheel though. I am not going to spend my youth with a rubber wrapped around my c@ck.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Matt ala Casanova

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Always wear a condom! The girl can still get pregnant even on the pill!

Also ensure you ALWAYS pull out when you peak!!

M.A.C.
 

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Always wear a condom

i a a condom always wear one,except with myex - gf,but i'll never do it again it ain't worth having a kid 4 ,or worse getting sick.:(
 

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even if i break

one day and decide 2 do it and end up getting sum skank pregnant ,i absolutley won't get married!:mad:
 

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This shouldn't even be a question. Also after you're done with it, and go to throw it out in the trash ( in the bathroom ) put a couple drops of tabasco sauce in it. When you're gone women can do all kinds of things with your used condom. Don't think so ? Talk to Shaun Kemp or any other major professional athlete.
J. B.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I think that if you're in a serious, committed, and monogamous relationship, it's ok to just use the pill. But one month DEFINITELY doesn't fall into that category.
 

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Thanks for the thoughts....

I've always used a condom when Fvcking new girls - except once with my now ex. We were monogomos and were tested - she was on the pill, and was extremely good about taking it every day.....

When your in an LTR with a great woman, there's nothing like being close to her - and for me fvcking with no barriers is probably the closest you'll get to her.
 

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Help her take the pill everyday. Make it a part of your routine, too. The pill is over 99% effective over the course of a year IF taken properly. Emphasis on PROPERLY. If she misses a SINGLE dose, the couple must wait WEEKS before she is safe again.

The above applies to people in an LTR. For a ONS or STR, you can't be sure she's using the pill responsibly (i.e. daily), and probably hasn't tested recently, so stick with a condom in that case.

Also, discuss abortion and her feelings. I guess that'd be more appropriate in an LTR.
 

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Some medical advice -

Note fellas, that the use of Antibiotics by your female will greatly lessen the effects of the BC pill.***

Most common antibiotic prescribed in the medical/dental world is amoxicillin. Any of the "cillin" class antibiotics will lessen the effects of the BC pill. If she's on the pill, make sure you find out what other medications she is on as well, some medical websites like webmd.com show drug interactions and contraindications.

***Source: 22nd Ed Drug Handbook 2002 pg 71.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Originally posted by NewMan


It goes like this - You've meet up with a girl, been seeing her for a month or so - Fvcking around on a regular basis. She tells you she's on the pill - Questions.....

1) do you drop the condom?
NO NO NO NO dont believe her for fvcks sake, i talked with a chick im seeing both of us said we WERE NOT ready for kids we said this until we were blue in the face, she assured me she was taking the pill PROPERLY.
not so long ago she tells me shes pregnant, and that shes having the baby whether i like it or not.
shes due in february.
 
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