So, I figured I'd pop in here and see how you're doing on the boot camp...
The point of at least the early Book Camp weeks seem to be to get over fear of approaching women, but I don't have too much fear of that.
The point of the bootcamp is to help you get a jumpstart on your dating life. If you're not afraid of approaching women - good! Don't let the rejection get to you. It's a part of life. There are billions of women out there. One of them is going to say yes sooner or later.
The bootcamp also isn't intended to help develope your game. It's to help motivate you and get your ass out in the real world doing the work. If you're getting tired of it already, this is only the beginning. Planning and executing dates actually involves more energy and time than going out and getting rejected. Once you've landed a date, you will be facing things like flakes, last minute cancellations, gold-diggers, women who are just plain boring, women with their ears glued to their cell phones, 5hit tests, and the list goes on. If you can't handle the rejection, how are you going to be able to handle the other situations that get thrown your way?
Many articles on here talk about watching for the "signs" that a woman is interested in you. I never get those signs.
The signs exist, but don't bother looking for them. Some women will display their interest more strongly than others. The "signs" are irrelevant when you're looking for a single woman. Regardless of the "signs", work on approaching and getting a phone number. You'll recognize the signs after you experience them for yourself.
If I press for a date for coffee or something they start hemming and hawing after I talk with them awhile, most say they have a boyfriend, some reluctantly give phone numbers but some have been fake and the rest never return phone calls.
This is the part of the "dating game" where you should have a routine you use for getting the phone number. It's one of the few things that I'd suggest anybody using a routine for. Mine usually goes along the lines of "Well, I gotta go, but I'd like to continue this conversation. Why don't you give me your number, and well continue it later?"
One thing that would help is if you write detailed interactions with your targets on here. This would help give us an idea of what you're actually doing out in the field, and we can help fine-tune your approaches. If you go into an obstacle course without knowing what to expect, you're going to stumble, trip, and fall all over the place. However, if someone gives you an idea how the obstacle course works and hints on passing the obstacles, you're going to be much better off.
some reluctantly give phone numbers but some have been fake and the rest never return phone calls.
This is all part of the dating world, and all of us have been through it. You'll have to get used to this. Also, don't wait for women to return your phone calls, as they rarely do. If you want to land a date, you'll have to do all the work. Some women will make your work easier, some won't. That's just the way things are. Get used to it.
I'm in better shape than 90% of all the men around me, I dress nice, smell nice, and don't come across as creepy or needy.
Looks don't count for 5hit, and I'm living proof of that. I'm in better shape now (in my LTR) than I was when I was single. Looking clean and well groomed won't improve things, but being untidy and smelly will hurt your success rate. By dressing nice and smelling good, you're just as good of a candidate as the other guys who dress nice and smell good.
The "creepy" and "needy" traits come off naturally through your body language. From your post, you're probably naturally giving the aura of being needy or unconfident. If you honestly didn't give a 5hit about rejection, you'd probably get a better response. The bootcamp helps null your neediness (or at least it should).
I can't even get dates from 300 pound women or women with missing teeth!
Women aren't genuinely aware that their physical appearance is the dealbreaker for men. Women are generally more interested in personality than looks, and they expect men to be the same way. That's why a woman's appearance is irrelevant to your success. Whether she's 110 pounds or 310 pounds, she's still going to sense that your needy and unconfident.
Problem is, I still don't know what I am doing wrong.
That's why you post your field reports here. Tell us EXACTLY what you're doing and what you're saying. We'll point out the flaws.
Why does this come so easy for other males?
Because they didn't give up when they were in the same situation as you. The old saying of "practice makes perfect" applies to dating women as well as playing an instrument or a sport.
I don't have any friends. And I don't like to go to bars. There is way too much competition there.
You don't need friends to date women. Social Proof will help you though. That's why bars are fantastic places to work on your game. Everyone's in the same place and sees what everyone else is doing. If you go to a bar and talk to EVERYONE there, you're going to get people's attention. Women like guys who are social, alpha, popular, and confident. A bar gives you a place, the people, and the opportunity to practice all of these traits.
The competition will give you a good learning experience and will help you measure how well you're doing. Trust me, when you get right down to it, there isn't all that much competition. All you have to do is be more interesting and confident than the AFC. Most guys are boring and don't have the balls to approach women. If you can conquer those two problems, you'll be way ahead of a good chunk of the competition.
Also, bars aren't just about drinking and dancing. Look around for a bar that suits what you enjoy. If you like playing pool, look for a bar with lots of pool tables. If you like sports, look for a sports bar. If you like music, look for a bar that has a lot of local bands playing. A bar doesn't even necessarily have to be about meeting women, it can be about going out to have a good time. You don't need to drink or have a gf to have fun!
Also, don't listen to Luke. He's just doing a study on the effects of dating sites on 30 year old virgins. I'd advise you to avoid dating sites, since they make you ignorant to what happens in the real world. You could meet a woman online, but once you get into the real world, you don't have a backspace key or a send button to delay you from making mistakes.
