"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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complete garbage at conversating.

Jair213

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so when you meet a chick on a date! its ussually is the get to know each other phase?

but how do you not reveal to much of your self and keep the conversation flowing? i freaken suc at topics too. Then I start getting all nervous if i feel like im running out of things to talk about. talk about an anxiety atack lol. :woo:

then when you see each other the second time third time how do you not keep your selfs from talking about the same things? geez
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Smok1nAce

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keep in the moment, keep her doing most of the talking. this is also hard for me since im naturally a guy of few words.
 

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Do interesting things and talk about them.
"I just went on a really cool trip! The town was ____. I did ___. The food was pretty ____."
"Have you ever traveled? Where would you like to go? What would you like to do in a different town? Do you like exotic food? What type?"

"I like to go fencing! It's a really cool sport. It's a good hobby and it keeps me in shape. What about you? What sports do you do for fun? Do you like to work out? What sports would you rather watch on TV? Have you ever seen a fencing match? No, it's not dangerous, we have protective gear."

Etc. It's not hard if you have a life and actually do things. If all you do is work and go to bars, then yeah, it's pretty easy to run out of conversational topics.

If you have social anxiety and just a hard time keeping a conversation going, read a self-help book about talking to people and building charisma. That's a skill that will take you far in life, not just with women.
 

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pinkfl said:
Do interesting things and talk about them.
"I just went on a really cool trip! The town was ____. I did ___. The food was pretty ____."
"Have you ever traveled? Where would you like to go? What would you like to do in a different town? Do you like exotic food? What type?"

"I like to go fencing! It's a really cool sport. It's a good hobby and it keeps me in shape. What about you? What sports do you do for fun? Do you like to work out? What sports would you rather watch on TV? Have you ever seen a fencing match? No, it's not dangerous, we have protective gear."

Etc. It's not hard if you have a life and actually do things. If all you do is work and go to bars, then yeah, it's pretty easy to run out of conversational topics.

If you have social anxiety and just a hard time keeping a conversation going, read a self-help book about talking to people and building charisma. That's a skill that will take you far in life, not just with women.
Yeah there's alot of advice out there about having good conversations but there's only so much you can talk about if you have a boring life. Always be learning about and doing new things and you'll have a library of topics to discuss. Also don't force it. If you absolutely can't think of anything to say just sit there and let her fill the silence.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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