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If this is your first visit to SoSuave, I would advise you to START HERE.

It will be the most efficient use of your time.

And you will learn everything you need to know to become a huge success with women.

Thank you for visiting and have a great day!

Commitment does not benefit men, only women.

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That's a superficially utilitarian way of looking at it. There's more to interpersonal relationships than fulfilling the very basic needs of sex and procreation.

I do agree though that a relationship to a bad woman is worse than being by yourself, but I have found a deep relationship to a good woman to be more rewarding than a series of shallow relationships with various women.

You throw out a bunch of generalizing statements about women as if they're just one large homogeneous entity, but this couldn't be further from the truth. They're individuals who share some similarities while other aspects are wildly different. No doubt will you find many women who fits the description you think of when you made this thread, but you will never convince me there aren't a ton of women who doesn't fit into your "woman" compartment.
Blanket statements are never a good idea. Some of this thread is akin to a woman who was cheated on saying the old trope of “all men are liars and cheaters.” Based of her personal experience. But really it’s just fear based and so she can have control on her perceived reality.

Each individual is their own can of worms. With varying degrees of similarities based on their gender.
 

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Commitment to ONE woman does NOT benefit a man. It benefits women and is also very stable and good for society. Men are shamed by family, society and media if they don’t commit to a woman. Yet it costs a man an arm and leg to commit and keep a woman (wedding, house, her expenses), and it costs a man an arm and a leg to leave if he wants out of the commitment.

If a man can’t get a woman (he’s a loser!)
If a man gets a woman and can’t commit (he’s a loser!)
If a man commits and she is not happy (he is a loser!)
If a man commits and she is not happy and she wants out (he pays her tens of thousands and he is a loser!)

Men are SHAMED if they can’t commit, and are PUNISHED when they do commit.

If a woman’s value goes DOWN as time passes, why does a man need to commit for? If a woman‘s value went up as time passes (she went from 34 to 27 to 18) it would be in their benefit. But to give up ALL sexual options to commit to ONE, when a woman’s use if sex and babies and entertainment, their is no benefit.

The ONLY way a man benefits from commitment is:

1) He always has a young hot mistress
2) If he wants out of the commitment, the woman gets the same thing she got from the guy who took her virginity.

Other than that, forget it men.

And be strong.
If a man is enjoying his life instead of doing something that benefits women, then he's not a real man according to a lot of women.
 

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As much as i don’t like to say it, a woman can save a man from his own destruction. A man with no partner, no kids , will self destruct.

Not every man out there is the ceo or the owner of some company or business. 99% are every day workers with not many hopes in life. If they don’t have a responsibility like looking after their family for example in the end they will start drinking lots of amounts of Alkohol, drugs , hookers casino and all those self destroying things . They will try to find something to fulfill their lives
The way most of the people are talking in here is like the whole worlds thinks alike .
Not every person wants to bang as many females as possible , not every person wants to be in charge and many other things . We have to be realistic some times .

A woman at the end of the day is needed for you to sometimes be back in line with your priorities and targets .
 

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If a man is enjoying his life instead of doing something that benefits women, then he's not a real man according to a lot of women.
I disagree.

Women will say just such crazy things like they are having exorcisms when you don’t pay them enough attention - and it’s truly a sight to behold if it’s the wrong woman for you.

But I’d say if she’s a good women she does really want a man who puts his life ahead of the woman.

Men are useless to women in the longer term if they have nothing to offer of value or have a negotiating position. It’s terribly easy to put up with bad behaviour when you don’t have your own world outside of her.
 

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If a man is enjoying his life instead of doing something that benefits women, then he's not a real man according to a lot of women.
heh but is that kind of woman you want distance from, also if you are a men you don't care about they opnion, they are the ones who cares hence why the shaming, they need for you to change your mind, if don't....


remember the maxim, men want woman, woman need a man, understand this and you will notice how the dinamic will change
 

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As much as i don’t like to say it, a woman can save a man from his own destruction. A man with no partner, no kids , will self destruct.

Not every man out there is the ceo or the owner of some company or business. 99% are every day workers with not many hopes in life. If they don’t have a responsibility like looking after their family for example in the end they will start drinking lots of amounts of Alkohol, drugs , hookers casino and all those self destroying things . They will try to find something to fulfill their lives
The way most of the people are talking in here is like the whole worlds thinks alike .
Not every person wants to bang as many females as possible , not every person wants to be in charge and many other things . We have to be realistic some times .

A woman at the end of the day is needed for you to sometimes be back in line with your priorities and targets .
That's an interesting way of looking at it. And you're right, not every man wants to spin plates and gain a huge notch count. Sosuavers always accuse women of solipsism, but we can be just as guilty of it.
 

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It means you have a better chance of being alive as you age if you are married.
It means that women choose men in a better shape and finance condition to get married, they willingly confuse the cause with the effect when they do such studies.

The guy with alchool addiction, no job who is a chain smoker dies cause his life is crap not cause no woman settled with him cause his life is crap.
 

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The guy with alchool addiction, no job who is a chain smoker dies cause his life is crap not cause no woman settled with him cause his life is crap.
Oddly.. some people - by health technical standards - should die fairly young.. and somehow they don’t. It’s like they want to die so their body (or God) won’t let them lol. And they become even more miserable.
 

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I have to agree on this one. Men are expected to give up everything. All the weight goes on OUR shoulders. However...No one ever said you HAVE to abide by that thinking. If other people wanna think you're a loser, that's THEIR problem. You don't need to adopt the problem for yourself. It's no secret that society's way of thinking is a lost cause. Everybody complains about it left and right. So to simply apply your own way of thinking while setting up your own rules for yourself is becoming increasingly expected. You only need your own validation, and maybe that of the few you care about. The rest of the world can go **** itself. In fact...I make Youtube videos where I talk about things like this. Check it out. This one is called "Morality and Individualism"...

 

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I have to agree on this one. Men are expected to give up everything. All the weight goes on OUR shoulders. However...No one ever said you HAVE to abide by that thinking. If other people wanna think you're a loser, that's THEIR problem. You don't need to adopt the problem for yourself. It's no secret that society's way of thinking is a lost cause. Everybody complains about it left and right. So to simply apply your own way of thinking while setting up your own rules for yourself is becoming increasingly expected. You only need your own validation, and maybe that of the few you care about. The rest of the world can go **** itself. In fact...I make Youtube videos where I talk about things like this. Check it out. This one is called "Morality and Individualism"...

You should ditch the constant music in the background and also film in a better location with light, and no robe but a normal shirt.

Some decent things in there, but those are very distracting. And the moustache going in your mouth - have to trim that thing.
(Don’t take any of this as an attack, just my perspective)
 

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It means that women choose men in a better shape and finance condition to get married, they willingly confuse the cause with the effect when they do such studies.

The guy with alchool addiction, no job who is a chain smoker dies cause his life is crap not cause no woman settled with him cause his life is crap.
No the study corrected for all of these scenarios. Let's also not forget that a married guy has a much higher chance of gaining weight as they age also
 

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One of the main benefits of being in a relationship as a man , as long as is a good one , is that you can spend the energy that you would have spent on chasing girls to build an empire and gain power & influence .

with that in place you will have access to super caliber women , otherwise things will not be that great as you grow old .

if is very unlikely that an old broke guy ( and this will be seen also on your face and body posture , as you will not have the resources to have top notch medical care so you grow old in a super good way ) to sleep with young good looking girls

you can see this also in the earnings that guys make over the years . Most of the guys really start accumulating wealth after they reach they mid 30s , which coincide with most the guys settling down and putting the energy to things that create wealth , not some dumb girls that he wants to **** because is horny
 
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You should ditch the constant music in the background and also film in a better location with light, and no robe but a normal shirt.

Some decent things in there, but those are very distracting. And the moustache going in your mouth - have to trim that thing.
(Don’t take any of this as an attack, just my perspective)
Thanks for the feedback. I appreciate it greatly! :):up:
 

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It can help if you have chosen the right woman. I'm young but know some older couples who are very happy and the wife is good to the husband. If you pick the wrong one it can be a big mistake. We know lots of people who have broken up and have heard all the horror stories but there are always some that we know that have gone down a different path and are happy.
 
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