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Comedian Russell Brand found guilty by UK court of rape and sexual assaults

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First, none of the alleged rapes were witnessed by a third party. The rape charges were based only on allegations made by the victims.

Second, there doesn't have to be any truth to it. Nor is making unfounded allegations necessarily perjury. Nor would they go to jail if their alleagtions were not founded. Nor would they lose custody of their children.

Third, having said that, I do think that Brand could be found guilty on the balance of probability on the basis of the accusations against him. But not beyond reasonable doubt (the criminal burden of proof). But I've alredy said that.
He said /she said is not supposed to be the standard for incarceration. My understanding was that part of it was him saying "sorry love" and treating that as a confession. The evidence presented might have justified a civil lawsuit.

The only way a guy can protect himself now is to have a consent contract detailing what is consented to, safe words detailed to announce when going beyond coconsent, signed and notarized, and then the whole encounter recorded on video for evidenciary purposes.

Oh well, the UK is a banana republic now anyway.
 

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There's that saying ... a leopard cannot change its spots. And I read he spent $1.34M on his defence, so that doesn't sound like he was resigned.
^^I don't disagree with you and I am NOT defending him at all, but it does appear he's turned his life around.

He went from being a deviant d-bag sex addict POS to a happily married man and father with three beautiful kids. His wife testified at trial what a kind caring and loyal husband and father he is so that's something.

He spent a great deal of money on his defense because while he readily admits he was a disrespectful d-bag POS to women at the time (which he now greatly regrets) he does not think he is guilty of rape or sexual assault. .

He insists it was consensual. The rape victim herself admitted that it was consensual.

Apologies I am about to get graphic here, but the facts presented at trial via text messages and witness reports at the time (friends and others) and the rape victim herself did not deny, was that she, on her own accord, went to RB's dressing room when she was 21 years old, immediately got down on her knees and gave HIM anal with her tongue.

Later he invited her over to his, and they had consensual vaginal and oral sex.

He suddenly turned her over and entered her anally during which it was alleged she said "please be gentle." Later during the act, she told him to STOP..

He did NOT stop, he ignored and continued to forcefully and aggressively anally **** her, caused her to bleed and she was crying. After which he told her to "clean up the mess" and kicked her out.

Many consider that rape and many don't.

What matters is the jury did so they convicted him. The Judge also did and he got 9 years for the rape, 1.5 combined for the three other less offensive sexual assaults.

Total 10.5 years.
 
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@Sega Genesis - ok, that part does sound like it would qualify for rape...

That just leaves the question to why this woman waited 15 or so years before saying anything about it.
 
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