"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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College: Stealing a page out of her book

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Okay this makes me feel pathetic but I have a hour between classes two days a week. I could go to lunch with the hb 8 but she invites along while she's already hanging with some AFC from her physics class.

So I pass on it, opting to eat lunch by myself. I got some teriaki chicken, sit down, and zone out. This HB7.5 comes up to my table (it's a round table with four seats) and says "do you mind if I join you. I hate eating alone."

And that was that. We hit it off. Talk the rest of the hour until I have to get to Organic Chemistry. She walks to class with me and I see the girl who invited me to lunch with her and the AFC. I get her digits and come away looking like a classic DJ by no real skill of my own. It's the type of situation that makes you feel good yet crappy at the same time.

Anyway I posted this for those who want to approach an HB eating. It is such a nonchalant approach--brilliant in its simplicity. I shall have to try this ASAP.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Originally posted by PeoplesChamp
Okay this makes me feel pathetic but I have a hour between classes two days a week. I could go to lunch with the hb 8 but she invites along while she's already hanging with some AFC from her physics class.

So I pass on it, opting to eat lunch by myself. I got some teriaki chicken, sit down, and zone out. This HB7.5 comes up to my table (it's a round table with four seats) and says "do you mind if I join you. I hate eating alone."

And that was that. We hit it off. Talk the rest of the hour until I have to get to Organic Chemistry. She walks to class with me and I see the girl who invited me to lunch with her and the AFC. I get her digits and come away looking like a classic DJ by no real skill of my own. It's the type of situation that makes you feel good yet crappy at the same time.

Anyway I posted this for those who want to approach an HB eating. It is such a nonchalant approach--brilliant in its simplicity. I shall have to try this ASAP.

Ummm did I miss something here? You didn't approach, she approached you! And that doesn't happen often, so I fail to see your point.

Anyhow, congrats on the pimping, "orangic chemistry" reminded me of that tommy lee goes to college show.



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well what I mean is finding a reason to be hard on yourself and the emasculating aspect of it. This cute little babe who's 5'3" can do this yet I still get past the AFC stop mechanism when I see an HB I want to approach. But of course over all it's a great thing no doubt.
 

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She probaly actualy does hate sitting alone. The hard part will be not commming off as fake saying it.
 

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Ahh the sophistication of a younger EGO. Not to belittle your opinion but yesterday we went to lunch and things are going well so far (I'm skeptic with all women). I'd probably be chillin with her right now If I wasn't fighting off a sinus infection. Anyhow I'm no expert but I think most DJs here would respond to such an assumption with "who cares how you come across. It's about breaking the ice and lowering a woman's defenses."

Obvious I'm not suggesting you do this and come on strong. This is more of a "it's about the journey not the destination" philosophy.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Originally posted by PeoplesChamp
Anyway I posted this for those who want to approach an HB eating. It is such a nonchalant approach--brilliant in its simplicity. I shall have to try this ASAP.
It's a nonchalant approach. In fact, it's not even an approach at all. I fail to see what this says besides sometimes things fall into your lap. No offense but I fail to see the insight in this post.

You just basically sat and ate. Then a girl approached you. Then you talked. The end.
 

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The insight is we, more specifically I, should be doing this. It's really that simple. If I work up the nerve I'll field test it next week.
 

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Originally posted by PeoplesChamp
The insight is we, more specifically I, should be doing this. It's really that simple. If I work up the nerve I'll field test it next week.
Do what? Wait for a girl to approach you? Or are you going to approach them?
 

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Originally posted by Best friends? NAY
She probaly actualy does hate sitting alone. The hard part will be not commming off as fake saying it.
actually, i've used that line a few times, and it does work...said "genuinely" of course. i've gotten to know a few girls with that...and also, dining hall approaches are awesome.

i think the OP was trying to say, use the line..."do you mind if i sit with you? i hate eating alone..." or something along those lines. if she's already eyeing you, it's even easier to grab a seat with her.

come on, i know he was a bit vague, but it wasn't that difficult to get his drift.
 

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Originally posted by h2o
actually, i've used that line a few times, and it does work...said "genuinely" of course. i've gotten to know a few girls with that...and also, dining hall approaches are awesome.

i think the OP was trying to say, use the line..."do you mind if i sit with you? i hate eating alone..." or something along those lines. if she's already eyeing you, it's even easier to grab a seat with her.

come on, i know he was a bit vague, but it wasn't that difficult to get his drift.
This is an approach for the shy guy. The whole point of this forum is to beat the shy guy out of you and shape you into a confident man who goes after what he wants without fear. I guess this approach is ok if you're still in the beginner stages. However, don't rely too much on these types of "excuse approaches" or you won't break out of your shell and conquer your fears of approaching directly.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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