"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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"Cold approaching doesn'nt work"

AureliusMaximus

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But it does work!
Personally I don't use social apps, but just talk to girls IRL too.

Thoughts from your own experience?
Any technique that worked more well for you than others and why?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Who says it doesn't? Always worked best for me - but within the context of daily life, not out spamming people on the street. Not saying that doesn't work, I just don't have time for it.
 

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I prefer to approach within proximity of something I'm already doing, where women happen to be at, it works quite well
 
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I prefer to approach know within proximity of something I'm already doing where women happen to be at, it works quite well
Grocery stores are hidden goldmines. Especially in the "healthy" sections because you know the woman is interested in taking care of her body.

That alone gives you massive insights into something you would take a while to actually figure out if you just started dating without knowing anything.

Anyone can say something or do something to try and impress someone for a while...but what are they doing when nobody is actually looking? That's the key.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Taking advantage of opportunities as you are out and about already is the way to do it, not setting time aside specifically to go do this activity...personally I think that puts you in the wrong headspace and probably makes you seem like a weirdo to the women you are approaching.
Depends on your approach of approaching.
I just do it went I interact with people in sort of normal daily interactions with people and I find some kind of connection is there.
Cold approaching doesn't mean you have to be the bloody spammer type of guy that runs up to every god damn girl he sees in the streets screaming them all in the ear "I am fvcking awesome in bed! :eek: " :rofl: and then moves on to the next time no matter the result...Like true spammer. You need to be smarter than that.
 

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Depends on your approach of approaching.
I just do it went I interact with people in sort of normal daily interactions with people and I find some kind of connection is there.
Cold approaching doesn't mean you have to be the bloody spammer type of guy that runs up to every god damn girl he sees in the streets screaming them all in the ear "I am fvcking awesome in bed! :eek: " :rofl: and then moves on to the next time no matter the result...Like true spammer. You need to be smarter than that.

That's exactly what I am saying, we are actually in agreement.

The spammer is what I am advocating against, the approach you and I both have described in differing ways is what I am suggesting.
 

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Thoughts from your own experience?
Any technique that worked more well for you than others and why?
An anonymous X account selling a course on how to attract women ... 100% it's invented BS.
The guy wears a robber's mask, makes good ol' RooshV appear legit by comparison. :D
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I prefer to approach within proximity of something I'm already doing, where women happen to be at, it works quite well
I can't imagine just going out and spamming girls on the streets or wherever. If I needed to pick up girls, I would just approach women I see while I'm out doing whatever I'm doing. Although when I was a younger guy, we used to go out with the express intention to pick up girls. I couldn't see doing it now, although maybe if I got desperate enough...
 

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I was never big into approaching girls on the street, but i have talked to a lot in bars.

It was usually game on more often than not with girls I met in bars.

For the girls I met online, it took more work and investment to get them comfortable to get to the "game on" point.

I think it's hard for women to get turned on and excited about meeting online guys. Its harder to seduce online than it is in person. Women are a lot more defensive online and for good reason. They also have too many options online and when a woman has too many options she can't make a decision. They suck are narrowing down prospects and come by it honestly.

It's always been easier for me to get a hotter girl in person than some online dating app.

You have to remember women like to live in the moment and don't get caught up in their head like guys. They like to get caught up in their emotions and feelings and if you can be the guy to facilitate that, things can happen fast in person.

It's how you make them feel. And it's a lot easier to do in person if you have some charisma.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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An anonymous X account selling a course on how to attract women ... 100% it's invented BS.
The guy wears a robber's mask, makes good ol' RooshV appear legit by comparison. :D
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Yeah, yeah....
I don't give flying fart about who is is or not is - he could still be god of the whole universe.:rofl: It does not matter. The text (his text) was just useful for the context to start this thread and therefore fulfils it purpose..
 

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Effectiveness of cold approaching depends on your age, her age, your looks (much easier to pull off for attractive guys), your character (most guys do not have the Instagramer personality) therefore for most of the guys, it is weird.

It is to be noted that once women you are interested in start to greet you with "Good Morning Mr" instead of "Hello", then you are probably slightly late with idea of cold approaching.

It is also important to remember about IOIs - if you get none or small amount from women that pass you on the streets, cold approaching might be not for you (this part is about me LOL).
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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332 dates in two years is the sign of one incredibly needy man.
 

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332 dates..... about half of them with "girls"? The other dates were with...... ?

How many kisses and fvcks were with "girls"?
 

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In my personal experience of having done thousands of cold approaches since the 2000’s, the best results have come from when I’m already doing a hobbie.

The times when I’ve cold approached women randomly, I always have a hard time pretending I’m genuinely interested in what they do or what they are all about. It comes across in my personality where I just gloss over what they are saying just so they I can get to what I want to say.

This led me to the belief that as long as I have hobbies that have women in it, I never really have to do random street approaches.

So the first question I ask someone who wants to do cold approaches is “What hobbies do you have that have women in it?” If he doesn’t have any, then I already know he’s going to have a hard time.

If a guy like me has a hard time randomly doing street approaches, I can’t imagine a random nerd, newbie, incel, crawling out of his mom’s basement being able to consistently pull it off.
 

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Stop thinking in terms of "cold approach", and instead as a key component of being a vibrant, heterosexual man. You'll stop coming across as a guy desperate for a slice of p-s-y, be far more attractive subsequently
 

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IME the environment matters a lot for cold approaching/ daytime pickups.

had some success at fun social things such as
street festivals, day raves, parades etc, city square type places for some event . Environs where women are going out to relax ,have a fun time and there is a social context to work with/angle into the opening.

Shopping malls if the women look like they are not in a rush or bored/killing time.
I could imagine bookshops could work or cafes for same reason.

plus building up the necessary skill of “profiling” women that may be looking for a fling. There’s little tells.

I recall trying at a big Mall with some local ‘PUA coach’ guy as a wingman . The girl was very cute professional chick and I did the 3 second approach.

My line was “ hi have you met X (coach name)? He’s my dating coach. he’s teaching me to overcome my shyness and meet women” . (Haha)
Delivered with a smirk and lotsa confidence.
We talked travel somehow. She was heading off on holiday to Thailand , I had been thinking of same. We exhanged deets.pretty short interaction. , a bit later she was hitting me up from there with pics etc keen to meet for a holiday fling.

And also I’d state this.
I would never go “direct” using a compliment as the reason for the approach.

Don’t know how that became a thing tbh or get the theory on that.
Seems dumb to me for many reasons. The main one being that women generally need a ‘story’ to play out. A sexy context/scenario and a role. It’s way better that way for them.

I found that to be an important principle and got repeatable results . So the woman can invest fantasy thoughts in, between meeting a guy the next meetup and build anticipation for it .
 
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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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