"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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cold approaches/what can i do to prevent flaking?

john_1234

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the last two numbers i received through cold approaching both turned out to be flakes. in both situations, i chatted no more than a few minutes because my time is limited during my lunch breaks. i called both up, got their voicemails, and left a message the first time. never leave a message the 2nd call (which is the next day after the first call). i then skip a day and called a third time. left a message w/ both and said, "what's happening this is john, just got out of school, work, etc.. this is the last time i'm going to call... but if you want to chat, ring me @ 555.5555" (i'm aware of voice tone and don't say it in a negative way; in fact, i've had girls call me back w/ this routine)

would the following two help prevent flaking?
*chatting for prolonged period, maybe five minutes or so, aiming for rapport
*how about email? david d. stresses this in his ebook and advanced although i've always shoot for #'s. maybe i should give email a try instead?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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speedo_meme

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john_1234 said:
*how about email? david d. stresses this in his ebook and advanced although i've always shoot for #'s. maybe i should give email a try instead?
Email is gay:down:
 

xblitz44x

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john_1234 said:
would the following two help prevent flaking?
*chatting for prolonged period, maybe five minutes or so, aiming for rapport
*how about email? david d. stresses this in his ebook and advanced although i've always shoot for #'s. maybe i should give email a try instead?
Rapport, rapport, rapport. I don't know where you're meeting these girls but I assume by "Cold Approaches" you mean on the street, at the mall, or the subway or something. If we're on the same page you have to remember that it is a scary fvcking world out there for women; hundreds of potential rapists and murderers are everywhere.. And lets be honest, it's not 'normal' for a guy to just go out of his way to talk to a girl that he passed by on the street. You know you're not Ted Bundy or Ronnie The Rapist but she doesn't. You need to spend plenty of time establishing rapport and making connections with her.
 

Jariel

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xblitz44x said:
Rapport, rapport, rapport. I don't know where you're meeting these girls but I assume by "Cold Approaches" you mean on the street, at the mall, or the subway or something. If we're on the same page you have to remember that it is a scary fvcking world out there for women; hundreds of potential rapists and murderers are everywhere.. And lets be honest, it's not 'normal' for a guy to just go out of his way to talk to a girl that he passed by on the street. You know you're not Ted Bundy or Ronnie The Rapist but she doesn't. You need to spend plenty of time establishing rapport and making connections with her.
I completely agree. My female friends have told me they would never go out with a guy who cold approached them, mainly for this reason.

Plus, many women want to get to know something about a guy and whether he's worth dating before taking a chance. A 10 minute conversation is not enough for girls to make that decision. They probably gave you their number because A) they didn't want the awkwardness of brushing you off face to face or B) They were flattered and in the moment it seemed ok. However, they usually rethink it all in between then and your call.

Personally, I believe majority of the girls who will respond well to a cold approach are the same type of girls who are up for one night stands in clubs. And if that's your thing, getting them in the club, when they're drinking and on the pull is a lot easier!
 
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