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I think it's more so women who dont want to be on them than men, which is one reason why theyre so male dominated. Women on the whole are more anxious about social status and social impressions, and also more cowardly (like being too cowardly to send a first message). Men simply adapt to womens' opinions on social status as regards dating, they dont make the rules.
I usually don’t even ask for a number if I get the feeling they’re being cold. I’ve approached a few where the vibe was off and I just aborted. Interestingly I feel the hotter women are more open to cold approach than the less so.
Cool. I was trying to see what your ratio was for cold approaches (rejections compared to lays). I totally agree with the last sentence. Some of my harshest blowouts for cold approach (night game) were from mediocre type women. My friend was telling me that some of them like to reject good looking men because it makes them feel good and/or because they think that a good looking guy would only be interested in them for a lay.
I don't understand how you could be good at sales but not good with talking to women? I was in sales also and it helped tremendously.
I absolutely think you have to adapt approach style depending on your environment. I would not use the same approach in the furniture store as a bar. I also am very selective in who I approach. I have to be physically attracted to the woman or I won’t approach. I’m not just going to talk to every female that is my vicinity.
Yes - couple weeks ago what I just described happened. Approached what I would say was a HB 6.5-7. Was just trying to be friendly/charming with her to start and she was having none of it. I had checked for a wedding ring prior so that wasn’t it. She was very catty and cold towards everything I said. I wished her a good night and exited without asking for a number. No point.
Exactly. That's what people mean by 'numbers game', but not everyone understands that lol
Thanks, brother. My best tactic is simply to try to have a normal conversation with them to begin. You can instantly tell if there is interest within the first 2-3 minutes. If there is, I make myself more charming and start steering the conversation towards getting a number. It usually works - but I’ve had some failures like everyone else.
Once I started getting into doing non-bar approaching, I made my non-bar approaches different than my bar approaches. This makes sense.
Everyone has an approach like that where the woman is having none of it. The best thing to do then is exit, as you did.
To each their own.
I tried it. Hundreds of women. I got tired of being a fly buzzing against a window
It's funny. I always found it the opposite with OLD. I always prefer pickup. Scoring vs scoring on a open net. No goalkeeper. In fairness, the past year of pandemic hasn't been a great time for people in general. I'm finding unless stupid high interest, it's go nowhere.
I’ve been doing ok but definitely not as good as in past years. I do have a semi regular fwb. I think she wants a man who will take care of her but is sticking with me till she finds one. Regardless I’m still looking for women.
I can’t speak for anyone else, but I’m not the most socially alpha chad. I do what works
It actually takes thousands of approaches to get results for most guys. But well worth it. Look up Mike mehlman
I can confirm that I have noticed this as well. There are some odd exceptions here and there but most of the times, it is the hideous looking women or older women well past their prime that are the harshest. I notice it in group settings too where the ugliest girl will say the harshest things to a guy even when her attractive friend is feeling him.
