Cold Approach in Grocery Store

[oldmanofthesea]

RE Dallas - I could see that. There are definitely plenty of cities I would not run approaches in or if I did I would not expect much.

Why do you think the single/taken rate in bars is similar to outdoors (park/path/street) and grocery stores?

Just because I think it's a random sampling of the same general population. All my friends who are in their 20's go to bars to hang out and drink and talk and have fun. All of them are in relationships. This applies to both my male and female friends. Now if you are talking about a NIGHT CLUB, that's a bit different - the ratio of single women is going to be higher, even though there are still going to be plenty of taken women there. Lastly, there are bars that are specifically known as meat-markets and those would obviously have a higher ratio of single women too but I can't stand those places nor night clubs. I used to DJ at a massive night club that was open to 4am every Friday and Saturday nights when I was in my 20's. It was fun back in those days at that age, but now the environment makes me cringe and I can't step foot in a club anymore. I'm almost 47 and don't drink and can't tolerate drunk strangers as well as I used to. Beyond that, I find the quality of women in the grocery store or on the sidewalk to be far superior to club/bar girls, on average. Many good girls won't go to a club but are obviously going to the grocery store. Again, not saying no good girls go to bars - I know many who do, but from a numbers perspective, I find a lot more "good" girls on the street or at the grocery store. They are the less promiscuous more down to earth type.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

@We_ArE_VeNOM - We are both advocates of talking to women we don't know and we both have great success doing it. My comments were not meant as a criticism of the differences between the way you do it and the way I do it; I was simply breaking down why I do some specific things differently than you - exactly the same way you did when you explained why you don't like saying what I sometimes say, "Excuse me miss, I just noticed you walking past, and I thought you looked really nice" and instead you prefer asking, "Are you single?"

I explained why my approach is better, and if there is any counter-argument to my approach, I haven't heard it yet.

So you feel it's ok for you to explain how you do things differently and why, but if I do the same in response, you get defensive and angry? If you can't have a friendly discussion about the specific nuances of what we both agree is an overall working technique, then there is no point in discussion at all so I will leave you alone to say whatever you want as the final and official word.

Gotcha. See ya in traffice .

 

[SW15]

my friends who are in their 20's go to bars to hang out and drink and talk and have fun. All of them are in relationships. This applies to both my male and female friends. Now if you are talking about a NIGHT CLUB, that's a bit different - the ratio of single women is going to be higher, even though there are still going to be plenty of taken women there. Lastly, there are bars that are specifically known as meat-markets and those would obviously have a higher ratio of single women too but I can't stand those places nor night clubs. I used to DJ at a massive night club that was open to 4am every Friday and Saturday nights when I was in my 20's. It was fun back in those days at that age, but now the environment makes me cringe and I can't step foot in a club anymore. I'm almost 47 and don't drink and can't tolerate drunk strangers as well as I used to. Beyond that, I find the quality of women in the grocery store or on the sidewalk to be far superior to club/bar girls, on average. Many good girls won't go to a club but are obviously going to the grocery store.

That's so cool that you used to DJ at a massive nightclub. You know nightlife too well.

Although I have been aware of the differences between bars and nightclubs, I have often lumped the 2 forms of nightlife together. Ultimately, approaching at either form of night venue is the same. Both venues have women in groups and bullshiit group dynamics that aren't fun for me. I don't like dealing with groups.

Late nights and alcohol aren't ideal. I didn't like the loudness of most venues.

Since I moved to Dallas, I've been to more bars than nightclubs. However, early in my time in Dallas, I decided to be more daygame focused than nightlife venue focused.

RE Dallas - I could see that. There are definitely plenty of cities I would not run approaches in or if I did I would not expect much.

There isn't much unique about daygame in Dallas and it's not the ideal city for daygame. Nevertheless, it is a good option for meeting people.

Dallas is a Sun Belt city that grew more after the automobile and the end of World War II. It's not a very walkable city, save for certain pockets. There's not enough foot traffic to run the Torero-Krauser type street game that they ran in London (London Daygame Model). There's much less street activity than New York City, Boston, or Chicago. Downtown Dallas has a bit of a Manhattan feel with some skyscrapers but there's less foot traffic and less opportunities to stop women on the street there. Additionally, Downtown Dallas (next to Deep Ellum) can feel a bit gritty and unsafe. This happens less during the day. I wouldn't recommend walking in Downtown Dallas at night, though there are more dangerous areas than Downtown in Metro Dallas and in other cities.

Since we're talking about grocery stores as the purpose of this thread, there are lots of grocery stores in Dallas. There's one in particular that I've done better at for getting numbers and dates than others. There's nothing unique about grocery store game in Dallas other than the fact that most women are receptive due to weak social circles. They are receptive in the sense that I haven't experienced harsh blowouts but it doesn't mean that it's a pleasant experience. In many ways, there's a bit of drudgery in grocery store approaching. The lingering element I talked about earlier in a key one.

I didn't discover daygame until moving to Dallas. I wouldn't know how to compare Dallas to other cities for daygame.