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If focused on getting sex as quick as possible, yes, i'd say there are more appropriate "environments" vs grabbing coffee. I guess I should say i'm not type of person that usually tries to get or expects sex right away (truthfully). For first dates I usually suggest something different than coffee.
Most men are interested in getting to sex fast. While sex doesn't need to happen on the same night as the initial approach (relevant for bar approaches) or on a first date, men don't want their interactions to result in nothing. Most men are also absorbing all financial costs in the early stages of dating, so spending money for nothing isn't that appealing.

The participants on forums like SoSuave are more likely to admit to these traits than someone with a blue pill ideology. However, men with blue pill ideologies still want fast sex in a lot of cases.
 

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Thanks, this post & Backingame's helped me understand the argument

If focused on getting sex as quick as possible, yes, i'd say there are more appropriate "environments" vs grabbing coffee. I guess I should say i'm not type of person that usually tries to get or expects sex right away (truthfully). For first dates I usually suggest something different than coffee.

I responded because there seemed to be notion that grabbing coffee is bad move and it's going to like hurt chances. This I cannot agree with- I think I mentioned one personal example but I have others (usually the girl suggested the idea). I only really have positive things to say about these experiences - they mostly all led to other dates and a lot of times could tell she was interested (she'd flirt). You're also not limited to just finishing your cup and saying goodbyes - if vibe is right you can always spend time afterwards. This happened to me a few times - went in just expecting to grab a cup of coffee & pastry but then vibed well & did other things after--- this is the advantage of being in a city.
Not even about getting sex quickly. It's about the whole vibe of a coffee date. It's not the sort of vibe I want to be associated with.

It's a lame vibe.
 
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There is no women in her 30s who is NOT going to care how much a man spends on a 1st date. There is no women in her 30s who is going to enjoy mini golf on her first date. There is no women in her 30s who wants to go hiking on a first date. A woman in her 30s wants to be wined and dined, she wants the RICH man.

Now if the woman is a 21 year old virgin or has limited sexual experience, THEN she will not care how much a man spends on a 1st date. Then she will not care how rich the man is. Then she will enjoy a round of mini golf on 1st date. Then she will enjoy a coffee date.

I feel like all advice given on Sosuave and on dating sites is either for Hot Virgin Women or Older Experienced Women. Nothing in between.
Let's be really real realistic.

You will date in a let's say 30 kilometers RADIUS. That means that you can meet a woman in like 10 different towns.you are not NOT NOT gonna be able to " monitor the dopest spots and become a regular" ( redpill advice ) in ten different towns because each town will have at very least 5 dope spots and bigger city's will have 20 / 200 dope spots ,especially when you are building something that acquires you to work 7 days a week

Gass In Europe: 20 km will be approximately 10 and maybe even 15 €. Assuming you wanna go back home that's at least 20+ bucks. Parking for 3 hours will be around 20 bucks. 40 bucks at least just to arrive.

So you end up in a place you are somewhat unfamiliar with. You look at the menu:
-cola/7 up- 3,60 €
- c0cktail- 14 €
- appetizer 22 €

Let's say you and miss princess both take all 3 of these. 40 euro's times 2 = 80. Vibe was ..okay /good/ GREAT!!!. So ofcourse you be like " nah Imma pay this it's okay".

80 euro's + 40 for Parking: 120 euro's. Assuming you and miss lovely took ONE c0cktail. Instead of 2 or 3....which would mean a bill of 176 € (For ONE DATE with a stranger who has ALL THE RIGHTS to reject you at ANY GIVEN POINT)

Iam not talking barber, new shirt, not being able to MAkE MONEY INSTEAD OF SPENDING

No guarantees ...( for box that is). Now finally let's assume you are a decent fella who gets 2 dates per month.

Let's keep it a buck shall we ??
 

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I like having coffee with my male friends just to chat, receive counseling and get the cobwebs out. Brotherly camaraderie and philosophizing about a wide variety topics over coffee and a smoke, seems to be lost art these days, since everyone is too busy watching netflix and glued to their smartphones. This is my recent instagrams story encouraging ppl to socialize more.


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