"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Coffee date logistics?

wolf116

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So how do you guys work this?

What time is best? 5pm roundabouts?

Do you ask what she wants and buy it for her, or stand in line together and buy separately?

Do you set a time constraint? What would you say?

What's goodbye etiquette?

Cheers.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Based on my experience (usually these are first dates for me):

6-7pm on weekdays, 1-3pm on weekends.

I'm usually late, so either she has already bought for herself or we buy together and I pay, though a couple times she had a giftcard so she paid. Never have asked what she wanted and bought it for her, that seems like a good idea though.

Usually don't set a time constraint unless one of us has somewhere to be. In my experience, we usually talk for 2-3 hours unless its clear that there's no connection at all then I make up some reason to leave or pretend to get a phone call.

For goodbye, I usually walk her to her car, hug goodbye, say I had fun, and leave it at then. If things went well, then I'll text her the next day or the day after and plan something.
 

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What time is best? 5pm roundabouts?

Weekdays 7-8pm

Do you ask what she wants and buy it for her, or stand in line together and buy separately?

I'd buy both drinks ahead of time and just wait

Do you set a time constraint? What would you say?

1-2 hours depending on the person's talkativeness

What's goodbye etiquette?

Girls I'm not sure about, I wave them off from a distance, Girls I'm sure about: Fist bump
 

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wolf116 said:
What time is best?
Weekdays (Monday -Thursday) 1600 - 2100. Weekends (Wide open)

Do you ask what she wants and buy it for her, or stand in line together and buy separately?
Wait until she gets there. If she's late, do not reward bad behavior. She buys both of yours. Maximizes your self-control. She shows up on time you give her a good thirty second gaze (insert sh!t eating grin) then tell her you're going to surprise her.

Strawberry Frap is ALWAYS a winner.

Use every single opportunity to keep her mental Gerbil running laps.

Do you set a time constraint? What would you say?
Always. Two hours is the max. No more or you become clingy. Be vague with what your plans are afterwards.

What's goodbye etiquette?
Alright.

This is where you can use Karma's patented greeting:

As she approaches you, turn your cheek towards her and gently tap it with your forefinger. Add a wry smile, and she'll always lean in for the kiss.

This move has NEVER failed to set her into the proper mental frame that she's in the presence of a man. A man completely unafraid of his sexuality.

This move alone has gotten me laid under 30 minutes after meeting.
 

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Coffee Date Steps:

1) Pay money
2) Get coffee

A coffee date isn't meant to be complicated, OP. It's meant to be simple. That's why we make them. So that it's easy to forget about the setting and just shoot the sh*t.

Set a time, and a day, and let the rest happen the way it should. If you're working on being an awesome human being, it will likely turn out fine.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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