"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Clubbing Help

Mission

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Hey guys,

I went clubbing tonight. I got a serious problem though, as much as I smile and are confident, I just have a huge problem meeting girls/dancing with girls in a loud environment like that, does anyone have any solid suggestions as to what I can do to make the most out of my clubbing experiences??

Mission
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Thomas94305

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Hey Mission..

Shezz did a great post.. guide to nightclubs..
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=103124&highlight=guide+club

If the environment is too loud .. then, find a quieter environment. I've posted before about venue. When a club's too loud, you simply cannot talk.

The dance floor can sometimes be a trap. I'd hesitate to dance with a gal, unless I convo'd with her some first, establish a rapport and connection. If you walk up to a new gal, go dance without convo first, when the dance ends, you now have to try to make a talking connection. She has to face her anxieties of talking with a person, you have to make convo. It shouldn't be a big deal, but it's often more convenient to part, and so she'll often do just that. Unless, you talked before dancing... then convo after is familiar territory to both of you.

Beyond club specifics, it might just be regular approach anxiety, or convo skills. Those two keep coming up in my experience, I continuously work to improve these. That will hurt things no matter where you go. And, you don't have to go to a club to improve these things..
 

rrrrr

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nightclubs suck, i go to bars, if there's music, it's a live band, besides, they have sets with breaks in between. example, i go to old town scottsdale since i'm in az, plenty of cool places around there with no noisy crappy music.
 
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