"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I was up in the city last night, having a good time with some friends. For those who don't know, I've been taking real dancing lessons (ie salsa, tango, waltz, rumba, etc) but how the hell do you dance to the crap that is shoved in your ears.

Also how the hell do you get the girls dirty dancing with you? By that I mean getting her bending over and dry humping her from behind.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Why try to dance dirty if you're taking formal dancing lessons? Women will respect you more for knowing how to dance with class and not try to rub on their a**
 
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****ing tango? If you're in a club that plays Hip-Hop or EDM (electro, house, trance, etc) just feel the music and express it by moving your body. It's not rocket science. Tango, salsa, and all that **** involves memorizing steps, real dancing is about losing yourself in the music. You can't teach it. Practice in your house, and go to the club every weekend and dance. You'll know you're good when girls tell you you're good. But you don't have to be a good dancer in the club. If you've ever gone into the club and just surveyed the scene, 80% of the guys dancing can't dance for ****, just get down.

As for dirty dancing, I usually get on the dance floor and dance my ass off til girls approach me. When they see you're a good dancer and that you're having the time of your life, they'll approach you.

If I do see a particularly fine ass chick who I can't resist dancing with, I try to catch some eye contact, than I start dancing up to her and get next to her. If she thinks you're cute, she'll start dancing with you front to front, than I make the move to grind. I hold her hands, turn her around, and grind my **** sore. There are no tricks to it. Just look good and show confident body language.
 

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I got a problem similar to Vanilla's.

I don't have a clue how to club dance. I can't freestyle and I don't have a clue what to do when a girl is in front of me.

I can do salsa and swing but throw me in a club playing hip-hop music, I might as well hug the wall.
 

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real2 said:
That's how it works.

Whether you like it or not, if you want to be successful, you need to understand girls always make the first move on the dance floor.

Learn to read body language, and you will know when she is inviting YOU in :)


And as far as salsa dancing, it's a great tool for the dance clubs, but to a small extent. Spin her, hold her close, dip her a little bit, do some fun arm moves, and then do some mouth to mouth sex :rock: :up:
I kept reading girls eyes but they gave all the attention to the other guys next to me, not one look towards me. I can't put the pieces together, I know I'm good looking and I had social proof. The best dancing I could put together was mimic what the other guys were doing.

When I'm at the salsa club, it feels better when I ask the lady to dance, then see the look on her face when I show her I actually have moves that were taught to me by a trained professional. I ALWAYS dip too, it really ends the dance on a high note and leaves them smiling.

On a side note, I did see one dude freak dancing alone. He eventually stopped and no woman would touch him with a 10ft pole. Good times.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Vanilla said:
Also how the hell do you get the girls dirty dancing with you? By that I mean getting her bending over and dry humping her from behind.
lol, dancing at a club isn't hard, because the guy's part isn't very important, it's all about the girls, and they know it.

All I ever do is move a little bit, put my hands on the girls hips/waist, and let her do her thing.

One time a chick friend of mine introduced me to a friend of her's, and she didn't seemed impressed. Well we get to the dance floor and my friend grabs my hand and throws me between this girl and her other friends, and they just did their thing. I grabbed her hips and just started moving with her, and she dirty-danced all over me.

Another time I was with some friends and saw a girl I knew from work, said hi, exchanged a few words, then got back to my friends. Later on she walks up, asks me if I wunna dance, then drags me over to her friend. I get between them, do what I always do, and they sandwich me and start dancing.

I agree that it's the girl's move in a club, cuz any time I try and make a move on a girl on the dance floor, they kick me to the curb and act like I'm stupid. If I mingle and let the girls ask ME to dance, I have a good time.
 

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While we're on the subject though, does anyone have any fun moves you can do on the dance floor to make her laugh. Like turning her around and grinding on her instead of the other way around.
 

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schttrj said:
go with the flow bro...don't rush it...but do learn how to LEAD - Ron.
I'd definitely agree. Sometimes it may be good to let them lead you a little too. If it's any kind of move like an a** rub, let them make the first contact of their cheeks on your pelvic, I would advise. When they do, free for all.
 
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