Cerwin Vega
Master Don Juan
Alright, on second thought maybe saying it was a mistake - but again, who cares what she thinks? It's time to move on.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Stop second guessing yourself fellaCerwinVegaFan said:Alright, on second thought maybe saying it was a mistake - but again, who cares what she thinks? It's time to move on.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
When dealing with BPDs you don't follow the normal stages of grief. It's impossible because the BPD is still alive, and could still make contact and/or be seen at any point - as well as the unresolved feelings and the trauma of the relationship itself.CerwinVegaFan said:All these memories come floating now and everything seems to fit so well:
This one time we went out with my friends, after 5 minutes she said she's feeling cold and wants to go home. I told her I will come with her, she literally pushed me out of her car so I won't come with her.
I called her at 2am and her phone was busy. Now I know why she went home that slot.
Now I know why she was tired all the time.
Now I know why she was acting so indifferent.
I'm not worried, karma will take care of her.
What does it say about me? Am I already at stage 2- anger?
No contact is more for when they're still in your life. If they're not in your life, work on yourself, go the gym, read self-help books, go out clubbing, go make new friends, go sky-diving, go the library. Make new neural paths - do new things that aren't associated with the BPD. You're into habits, habits that can't be fulfilled now that she's left. But you literally need to deal with the issue YOU HAVE, that causes you to have such a person in your life, and to crave the kind of sociopathic abuse that you've suffered.Mrgoodguy301 said:Everybody always says go no contact, what the hell are you suppose to do when they go silent and just up and leave? I don't get her,..
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
Actually ignoring mine at the moment. She keeps posting stuff on fb that she knows I like, suddenly starts loving cats, and loving my songs on smule telling me how she's listened 4 times. I shall continue to ignore. I really want to see her start telling me how much she loves me.Dgwizdal said:Good thread - the only way to keep BPD chicks around and in line is to treat them like dog **** and stick to your guns when the manipulation comes. She will worship you. Sad but True - Never get emotionally invested and give very little if any validation.
Ignore them and watch them go bat **** insane.
I don't think anyone is that AFC that they would sit around waiting for their BPD to contact them for years.Mrgoodguy301 said:Yeah but when they start ignoring you they can last for years. Watch out with that one.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.