"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Chump gets owned

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Hahahahahahahahahahahaha :breath: Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

http://www.enotalone.com/forum/showthread.php?p=4428716#post4428716

Cliffs:
Guy starts to see a girl.
Girl and guy plan to spend the day together.
Girl gets a call from another guy she was seeing.
Other guy on the phone is a bad boy that “recently got arrested”.
Girl tells niceguy to drop her off at bad boy’s house for what amounts to a booty call.
Niceguy is besides himself and wonders why she likes bad boy more.

Hmm… could it have something to do with being such a chump he dropped her off to another guy’s house when they were supposed to have a date? If he’s that big of a pushover/niceguy then no wonder she was more attracted to the other guy!

Moral of the story, DON'T BE THIS GUY!
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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wow! lol

If it were me, I would have asked her if she likes the other guy more than me. If she did not give me a straight answer that she likes me, then I would have dropped her off at the nearest gas station. She can have the other guy pick her up with his bicycle lol.
 

The Bad Ass Canadian

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Plinco said:
I would have dropped her off at the nearest gas station. She can have the other guy pick her up with his bicycle lol.

that's what your reply should have looked like.
 

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I felt bad for the dude. SMH...
 

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San Jose California said:
I don't see what's such a turn on about a guy going to prison. Everyone I know that's gone to prison is a dumbass, people that will never have real jobs.

Plus, at this point I've met so many people who have been to jail or prison that I'd rather hear about someone's day at a barbeque.
Stop thinking logically. We're talking about feeeeeelings here.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Did he actually drop her off at the guys place? He didn't specifically say and nobody asked.

Plinco said:
wow! lol

If it were me, I would have asked her if she likes the other guy more than me. If she did not give me a straight answer that she likes me, then I would have dropped her off at the nearest gas station. She can have the other guy pick her up with his bicycle lol.
That's a great reply and it is exactly what I'd do. If a girl pulls something like that then she deserves to be stranded.
 

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I would've dropped her off at her local police precinct, told her good luck and advised her to file a missing persons report before he picked her up on his bicycle.
 

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Maxtro said:
Did he actually drop her off at the guys place? He didn't specifically say and nobody asked.


That's a great reply and it is exactly what I'd do. If a girl pulls something like that then she deserves to be stranded.
It wasn't a great reply as you should never be asking a girl "who do you like more? me or him?". I can't think of any scenario in which its appropriate to ask that question.
 

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Tesl said:
It wasn't a great reply as you should never be asking a girl "who do you like more? me or him?". I can't think of any scenario in which its appropriate to ask that question.
What's the best move?

You're with a girl, about to go on a date. She gets a phone call/text. She says sorry and wants to see the other guy. What's the best action?

Dropping her off at the guy's house is stupid, unless I'm getting a 10% cut ;)
 

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Maxtro said:
What's the best move?

You're with a girl, about to go on a date. She gets a phone call/text. She says sorry and wants to see the other guy. What's the best action?

Dropping her off at the guy's house is stupid, unless I'm getting a 10% cut ;)
I can't say I've ever had this happen to me before, but mentally I'd next her immediately. Clearly shes not worth purseuing. So from this point, I'm not sure it would really matter what I did next since I'd have no further plans on ever calling her again. I'm actually quite a nice guy, so unless its out of my own way I wouldn't mind dropping her off elsewhere.

I actually think most of this board would disagree with that line of action. But I'd ask, what is there to gain by making a big deal of it? Politely moving onto the next girl is always the best move I think ... :)
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Heh, I've got a bit of a mean streak in me and I hate getting used by women.

No matter what action was taken, it's definitely a next.
 

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Maxtro said:
Heh, I've got a bit of a mean streak in me and I hate getting used by women.
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Most women complain about being used by guys too of course. The trick is to not invest too much time when you both want different things .. :)
 

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Nutz said:
Stop thinking logically. We're talking about feeeeeelings here.
Lol true. Some guys forget that women are not logical creatures they are all about feelings.
Tesl said:
Most women complain about being used by guys too of course. The trick is to not invest too much time when you both want different things .. :)
Those same women that complain about being hurt by men/used by men/saying they are looking for a "nice guy," WILL BE DATING SOONER OR LATER YET ANOTHER jerk that will treat them like sh*t like every other guy she has dated.

That's why treating women like kids works so well because they really are kids (mentally).
 

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Maxtro said:
What's the best move?

You're with a girl, about to go on a date. She gets a phone call/text. She says sorry and wants to see the other guy. What's the best action?

Dropping her off at the guy's house is stupid, unless I'm getting a 10% cut ;)
A) IF you are on a real "date" with a woman she is barred from taking texts/ calls unless it is a medical emergency OR you are dating an woman with kids at home with a sitter, or sitting themselves if they are teens.

I usually say this to her at the start of a date," I don't like interruptions when I'm enjoying myself, so I am turning my phone off " . ( Or I say that I'm leaving it in the car)
Nine time out of ten she will do likewise.
If she refuses, and gives me a lame 'reason' why she wants to take her phone along on our date, then --- STRIKE #1 - she is difficult and self centered..

B) IF she took a call from another guy in my presence and either chatted to him or returned his text she would be taking a bus home and paying her own drink bill .

Hot or not, rude is always rude . I have expectations that a woman will try to impress me and act acccordingly . A woman who did the above is NOT on her best behavior - and therefore is not showing signs of respect OR attraction to you.

It is better to eject at the first sign of poor behavior .
Trust me on this - women repeat behavior that men accept and tolerate.
 

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Nutz said:
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha :breath: Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

http://www.enotalone.com/forum/showthread.php?p=4428716#post4428716

Cliffs:
Guy starts to see a girl.
Girl and guy plan to spend the day together.
Girl gets a call from another guy she was seeing.
Other guy on the phone is a bad boy that “recently got arrested”.
Girl tells niceguy to drop her off at bad boy’s house for what amounts to a booty call.
Niceguy is besides himself and wonders why she likes bad boy more.

Hmm… could it have something to do with being such a chump he dropped her off to another guy’s house when they were supposed to have a date? If he’s that big of a pushover/niceguy then no wonder she was more attracted to the other guy!

Moral of the story, DON'T BE THIS GUY!
Forget about him, the question is why do you waste time *laughing* at this AFC? This obviously does not make you more of a man, and if you are not progressing, you are regressing.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Tesl said:
I'm actually quite a nice guy, so unless its out of my own way I wouldn't mind dropping her off elsewhere.

I actually think most of this board would disagree with that line of action. But I'd ask, what is there to gain by making a big deal of it? Politely moving onto the next girl is always the best move I think ... :)
Nothing to gain but much to lose,just read at Jophil



jophil28 said:
attraction to you.

It is better to eject at the first sign of poor behavior .
Trust me on this - women repeat behavior that men accept and tolerate.
You beated me on the time.
If they would be punished for every wrong behaviour,they would stop with that,it's not a matter of hormones as they say,it's just that the are no conseguences for their sh1tty behaviour.
 

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He should have dropped her off at the bad boys place and asked her if he could watch
 
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