Christianity and Don Juan Conflict

[Nighthawk]

Did Jesus definitely revoke those laws? Who told you those laws don't apply any more? And please quote me Jesus saying the stuff about no sex before marriage. Cheers.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Believe what you like, I'm not out to convert anyone. But since you asked, the rules given in the Bible change with every covenant. The covenant is the current contract with God, as given to Adam, then Noah, then Abraham, then Moses on Mt Sinai (your favorite), then David, and finally the Messianic covenant of Christianity - aka, 'the good news.'

 

[Nighthawk]

Sorry for the misunderstanding BB, I was referring to the post before your eloquent and knowledgeable one!

 

[(JJ)]

The bible clearly indicates that you shall never have sex before you marry.

No, it doesn't. Your pastor will very clearly tell you not to, but the Bible says no such thing. Jesus said to not be 'sexually immoral' and left it at that. Paul's letters in Corinthians have been interprted as a ban on pre-marital sex, but he was writing those letters to a people known for having wild pagan orgies. They used prostitute priestesses and sex as part of their pagan worship, which is mostly why Paul is so against 'fornication.'

I would challenge anyone who thinks the Bible includes a ban on pre-marital sex to find those words in the actual book. Here is a link to search:
http://www.biblegateway.com/keyword/

Read the Song of Solomon. Sex, in and of itself, is not bad or dirty. But like anything else, taken to extremes it can be a bad thing. Similar to alcohol, it can be used or abused. Most people can handle it, others destroy their lives with it. It's what you do with it that matters.

well technically one of the commandments ( i don't know which one because im not a great christian lol) says "thou shalt not commit adultery." the definition of "adultery" is sex OUTSIDE of marriage. aka before

 

[Bible_Belt]

Sorry for the misunderstanding BB, I was referring to the post before your eloquent and knowledgeable one!

Thank you. I always feel like Rodney King in these quasi-religious discussions:

"Can't.....can't we all.....can't we all just get along???"

 

[Bible_Belt]

well technically one of the commandments ( i don't know which one because im not a great christian lol) says "thou shalt not commit adultery." the definition of "adultery" is sex OUTSIDE of marriage. aka before

I have heard that argument before. Every definition of the word that I can find, though, requires that one sex partner be married.
http://www.answers.com/topic/adultery
Adultery is a crime against marriage. It's not a sex crime in the same way that having sex with your mother, sister, and livestock are all forbidden. Apparently, wandering through the desert was pretty boring, and everyone was fvcking everyone and everything else, thus the need for these rules back then.

 

[PrinceBeavis]

This is SOOOO not the place for bullshyt theological debates.
The young man asked a question. Answer the question and move on.
Stay on topic! If you want to have an un-man-like argument, take it to Anything and Everything, where no one cares!

 

[redspicyflag]

I want to have these men characteristics and to be your definition of a DJ but the forum is all about attracting woman and seduction and sex and tecniques! Please tell me why that is the case if a DJ is about being a true men and not about women # techniques.

First of all

this forum was created for a place with men having issues with women

that objective was fulfilled

but something else happened

we found the underlying issue

the bigger issue to why we have the AFC issues

it started and still is a seduction based forum

but SS has expanded


So the reason you are anti DJ is because you don't like the pua image?

 

[mpimpin]

This is turning more into a religion thread.
ADJ I think you have multiple good responses to choose from.
As for my own answer to your question Yes you can be a DJ without Sex. I myself have never thought of it as being a quest for sex, but more a quest for being comfortable and confident with oneself. How you use that is up to you.