"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Chicks in service jobs

timmylivingalie

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Most of the chicks I talk with work in stores, gas stations, or are waitresses. What I am wondering about is how often I should go into the businesses they work in without seeming needy or worse? Once a week?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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This sounds like an awful idea in general. First off, these women are broke.

Avoid broke, avoid hardluck. There are exceptions, but this is a standard to live by.

Why don't you focus on women that are healthy, lively, attractive and smart. These are women that take care of themselves and have the money to do so. Yoga classes, bootcamps, paddle boarding lessons, dancing lessons, shoppers at wholefoods...whatever.

If you're really set on these service women, go in when you want to...Pump gas when you have to and grab her number and get out. Go eat your cheeseburger when you're hungry, get her number and get out...

Right? Does that sound too obvious? Then you're an idiot.
 

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Digitz said:
This sounds like an awful idea in general. First off, these women are broke.

Avoid broke, avoid hardluck. There are exceptions, but this is a standard to live by.

Why don't you focus on women that are healthy, lively, attractive and smart. These are women that take care of themselves and have the money to do so. Yoga classes, bootcamps, paddle boarding lessons, dancing lessons, shoppers at wholefoods...whatever.

If you're really set on these service women, go in when you want to...Pump gas when you have to and grab her number and get out. Go eat your cheeseburger when you're hungry, get her number and get out...

Right? Does that sound too obvious? Then you're an idiot.
Dont have the time or funds for luxuries like that.
 

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timmylivingalie said:
Most of the chicks I talk with work in stores, gas stations, or are waitresses. What I am wondering about is how often I should go into the businesses they work in without seeming needy or worse? Once a week?
Go in when you're hungry, when you need gas. As a regular, they will remember you but not give a shiit about you.

Strike when the iron is hot. first or second time seeing her max.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Digitz said:
Why don't you focus on women that are healthy, lively, attractive and smart. These are women that take care of themselves and have the money to do so. Yoga classes, bootcamps, paddle boarding lessons, dancing lessons, shoppers at wholefoods...whatever.
Because these women are usually MARRIED and often seen (in my neighborhood, anyway) driving strollers.
 

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Move to where the single girls live.

This is probably the single best thing you can do outside of learning game in the first place.
 

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If I go into a store bust on the chick working there she gets attracted to me and we have good rapport. How long should I wait before returning to the store? Is all Im wondering. Dont see why I am being attacked for asking that?
 

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Because you shouldn't be hitting on broads while they're working. Hit on women who aren't paid to be nice to you. I don't see why that's so difficult to understand.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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You should get the number right then and there. ALWAYS STRIKE WHILE THE IRON IS HOT.

Don't listen to zarky, he's advocating what amounts to a self limitation that he might place on himself and thinks you should too. Some people try to impose their values onto others, and the best thing to do is ignore them when they do so.
 

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It's funny yet sad that guys can't see what colossal sad-sacks they are when they can only hit on women who are forced to be nice to customers because they'll get fired if they're not.

How can you fail to see the utterly pathetic nature of hitting on women who HAVE to interact with you and who have to be nice to you as well? How can you not understand that? Does everyone here have an IQ of 93 or something?

Any pretty girl who's in customer service has the biggest shield you can ever imagine. It's not a "b*tch shield" because they have to be nice to you or they'll get fired. But it's a shield nonetheless. And it's huge, so huge that it's an utter waste of everyone's time for you to bother with it.

Do you guys have absolutely zero experience with women? I do not understand how you can fail to understand this fact.

By all means, go to a mall and hit on every retail girl in the place. See what happens. Yes, you might get a number, and you might even get a date. But the percentages are so low that you'll have more luck approaching random women in the street.

And besides that... it's pathetic. The girl HAS to talk with you. Are you kidding me? Your seduction skill-set is so piss-poor that you can only "approach" women who have no choice but to engage with you? This place is so depressing.
 

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Zarky said:
It's funny yet sad that guys can't see what colossal sad-sacks they are when they can only hit on women who are forced to be nice to customers because they'll get fired if they're not.

How can you fail to see the utterly pathetic nature of hitting on women who HAVE to interact with you and who have to be nice to you as well? How can you not understand that? Does everyone here have an IQ of 93 or something?

Any pretty girl who's in customer service has the biggest shield you can ever imagine. It's not a "b*tch shield" because they have to be nice to you or they'll get fired. But it's a shield nonetheless. And it's huge, so huge that it's an utter waste of everyone's time for you to bother with it.

Do you guys have absolutely zero experience with women? I do not understand how you can fail to understand this fact.

By all means, go to a mall and hit on every retail girl in the place. See what happens. Yes, you might get a number, and you might even get a date. But the percentages are so low that you'll have more luck approaching random women in the street.

And besides that... it's pathetic. The girl HAS to talk with you. Are you kidding me? Your seduction skill-set is so piss-poor that you can only "approach" women who have no choice but to engage with you? This place is so depressing.
I walked into the store yesterday around 75 customers in there and about 9 cashiers working. The minute I walked in she made eye contact and started talking to me 25 feet away while she waiting on customers.
 

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Zarky,

If you can't tell the difference between a girl that's paid to be nice to you and a girl that's in to you, you really need to brush up on your chick reading skills.

If I see a girl I like, I go after her. Yes, even cashiers. Stop hating.
 

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You can go back in there tomorrow- if she is interested, then she is interested. If you read her right, sounds like that is the case. Go in soon, and if she is working, get in her line to buy a pack of gum or anything, and say "hey, why don't you and me go get a drink sometime?" and flash your pearly whites. She either says yes or no.

You're welcome, that will be $20 payable via Paypal. :)
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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