"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Chick has boyfriend, is blowing up my phone and Facebook

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OK...I'm spinning plates with three girls. Maybe a 4th if I play my cards right. One of things I notice is that more you spin plates, the less time you have to pay attention to all of them, thus making you seem like you don't care, which drives them crazy.

So anyways, this one girl has a boyfriend. She is 25 and I'm 34. The thing is that her boyfriend lives two states away and travels, so she has Skype dates with this guy to make up for lost time. Yeah, that sounds like it's really going to last.

When I first met her, I thought she was sort of cute. We talked a little online and I secured a wine/movie date with her. Total FZ stuff, at least, that's how I came off to her. A few weeks later, her and I meet up and have coffee and have this long, drawn out conversation about relationships. I really showed myself and painted myself as valuable.

A week passes and I ask to meet her for dinner. I call her, she doesn't answer. She flakes and texts me that she can't. I don't respond.

My birthday was this past week, she texts me a birthday greeting and I tell her thanks...nothing more. This week, she starts liking my Facebook photos, posts, etc, but she can see that I have another girl who is blowing up my wall with sweet stuff and compliments. I am now valuable, but I'm giving her nothing back.

She just texted me tonight to talk about Boston Marathon tragedy....I haven't responded at all.

Now, it might be time to make a move and get this girl out of the friend zone.

Or --- what is girl trying to do with me if she has a boyfriend already?

Advice?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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bump - needs opinions. Thinking about making a move on this one....
 

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Thing is, she never returned your early gesture of inviting her. She rejected it, and then subsequently maintained a diet of conversation with you that was only agreeable to her. She never invited you to hang out after that flake. No action, just all talk/texting.

Invite her again, except to something a little less intimate than dinner so as not to alert her - say, happy hour or drinks at a nearby bar. If she rejects your invitation again, move on; if she gives you the green light, hang out and escalate from there.
 
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