"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Chick at work, and a few questions

MainDroite

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So there's this french girl working at some cafe on my campus. She smiles at me a lot and maintains eye contact for a very very long time. I'm afraid of asking her out (not that I usually am) because there's always just so many people around. I don't have the time to just go and sit at the cafe until I find her unsurrounded. Thoughts?

Also, what are the thoughts here on using palm-reading to get a chick's attention? Or magic tricks?

Do you ever "prepare" for a date? If, let's say, you know the girl is studying chinese, are you gonna do a bit of reading on the subject just to be sure of having something to talk about?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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f283000

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MainDroite said:
Also, what are the thoughts here on using palm-reading to get a chick's attention? Or magic tricks?
How about you work on your people skills by opening random strangers/girls? Building your confidence doing that will help you a lot more in the long run than learning to do magic tricks. Everybody and their grandma has seen the mystery show on vh1 girls are not stupid they know what you're trying to pull.

You think girls don't know what a canned opener with the obligatory magic trick/palm reading is? They've seen the show ;)
Do you ever "prepare" for a date? If, let's say, you know the girl is studying chinese, are you gonna do a bit of reading on the subject just to be sure of having something to talk about?
NEVER DO THIS!

I am guilty of this too. Once I found out about a certain type of book series a girl liked. I did my research online, the next day i started a chat with her about it and told her how much i liked bla bla bla even though I never even read a page of those books!

In fact I used to do this a lot. As I spoke with girls and learned more about them I would try to build "a connection" by talking about what they liked, pretending i liked those things too etc etc. Guess how many girls that got me...ZERO!!

It took me a while (and lots of reading) to realize that building a "connection" doesn't mean you're building sexual attraction.

Instead of reading up on chinese why don't you talk to her about another interesting thing you know a lot about?

Remember. You say 1 interesting thing to a girl and they'll say that's interesting. Say 2 or 3 then YOU BECOME INTERESTING!

Bring sexual innuendo to your conversations, riske topics, but whatever you do don't "have a chat" with her but rather try to build attraction.

Do you really think you're the first 1 she's ever encountered that has tried to build a connection to something she likes? Girls had this trick pulled on them since they got to the dating age. You should strive not to be like her but actually be different from her. Girls like guys that are unique, interesting, different. Not another nice guy that tells her how much he loves chinese just like the other guy the week before that was also trying to get into her pants!
 

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you can connect somewhat but I agree 100% with adding in sexual innuendos and attraction builders, physical touch is a big element as well, getting friend zoned is hard to do actually LOL
 
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