"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Checking in w/ a girl again after pulling away?

TheCWord

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This girl was really interested then I asked her out and she flaked... I immediately backed way off, stopped initiating contact, etc. She'd send a text and I'd reply with a short response, much later.

I've been seeing her around town lately and she's all excited to see me, but I've been acting really indifferent - pretty much just smiling, saying what's up, and moving on.

Originally I thought I'd just wait until she tries to iniate plans - seeing as, when I asked her out, she bailed with no counter-offer. But I'm wondering if I'm treating this girl too much like long-term girl or oneitis with going so cold... When it's a new plate who didn't accept a date proposal, do you try asking them out again after a period of indifference or just stay dark until they suggest making plans?
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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May_Day

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TheCWord said:
I asked her out and she flaked...
She will flake on you again. Her IL won't rise if she has no interest in you, that is why she flaked on you the first time. She had no interest in you. Why bother with her again?
 

Dust 2 Dust

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TheCWord said:
do you try asking them out again after a period of indifference ?
Hell no, if you ask her out again you're DLV'ing yourself and signaling to her that she can jerk you around and disrespect you. Cancel with no counter offer=Next.
 

TheCWord

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Thanks for the reminders, guys. I'll stay away.

Here's a recent development for you, though - was supposed to go out with this girl friend for drinks after work. She asked how I felt about the girl (who i've talked about here) coming along. I said I wasn't in the mood for other people but this girl is staying at friend's house.

I guess I could just cancel on my friend.
 

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I went through the same thing. Asked twice, got 2 shıt excuses, and I moved on. So, I agree with SoSuave. Ask one more time, in a very matter-of-fact kind of way, that you'll be doing XXXX on XXXXday, and if she would like to join you.

Don't expect miracles, you may get a lame excuse, but for your own confirmation, try once more. Keep us posted.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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