Celebrity HB wants to go out, but my friends are warring

[The LadyKiller]

Interesting weekend to say the least.

I met a small-time celebrity this week, who honestly is as close to a HB10 as I'm ever going to meet - not putting her on a pedestal, simply being realistic. I learned that I actually know her best friend, and that the friend must have put in a good word for me (even though I haven't seen her in awhile). As a result, HB-near 10 and I exchanged numbers, and she jumped on the chance to join my friends and I the next time we hit the city, an hour or so away. She has never been and wants to check it out (of course her best friend who I know and her girl friends can come too).

Great, right? Well, determining which group of friends get to go is going to be an ordeal. You see, I have two close groups of friends, but of whom would surely go on the trip. However, I learned tonight that the groups don't like one another, and I'm stuck in the middle. We were all at the same bar tonight, and apparently things boiled over - was getting texted by both groups simultaneously about the other.

My question to you guys is how do I handle a situation like this with my friends? I can't exactly lie to one group, but it's clear I can't bring both. I feel asking the small-time celebrity out on a date is going a little too quick since I don't really know her well. Having a few friends in a group setting (both mine and hers) will help immensely.

 

[TheProspect]

She already willingly give you her number.

I don't know the exact context, but you probably feel more comfortable in a group setting because you might be subconsciously intimidated by her status and looks, like most of the guys she meets. Stand out, show confidence, and ask her on a date.

Avoiding a date because you feel it's "going a little too quick" and because you "don't know her well" defeats the purpose of a date. It's not like you're asking for sex right off the bat.. a date will give you a 1-on-1 opportunity to build attraction, and yes, get to know her.

You'd ask a girl you just met in line at the grocery store on a date wouldn't you? No difference here, you're just a step further because you already got her number.

 

[Trump]

Interesting weekend to say the least.

I met a small-time celebrity this week, who honestly is as close to a HB10 as I'm ever going to meet - not putting her on a pedestal, simply being realistic. I learned that I actually know her best friend, and that the friend must have put in a good word for me (even though I haven't seen her in awhile). As a result, HB-near 10 and I exchanged numbers, and she jumped on the chance to join my friends and I the next time we hit the city, an hour or so away. She has never been and wants to check it out (of course her best friend who I know and her girl friends can come too).

Bro, what are you doing? Why would you invite a good looking young celebrity who you want to have sex with out with a bunch of your friends and her friends? Do you know how many things can happen with a bunch of people you know that will decrease your attractiveness in her eyes? If you want to have sex with her, you have to ISOLATE her form everyone and everything until you do. Otherwise she will get distracted.

Great, right? Well, determining which group of friends get to go is going to be an ordeal. You see, I have two close groups of friends, but of whom would surely go on the trip. However, I learned tonight that the groups don't like one another, and I'm stuck in the middle. We were all at the same bar tonight, and apparently things boiled over - was getting texted by both groups simultaneously about the other.

My question to you guys is how do I handle a situation like this with my friends? I can't exactly lie to one group, but it's clear I can't bring both. I feel asking the small-time celebrity out on a date is going a little too quick since I don't really know her well. Having a few friends in a group setting (both mine and hers) will help immensely.

You haven't even held hands with this girl and you are already worrying about all your friends and the setting. What are going to do when one of your close friends tries to make a move on her? You will absolutely freak out.

You DON'T bring any friends in it until you have had SEX with her. Even after you've had sex, you don't bring them in. You have to make her absolutely fall 100% in love with you and give up her body 10X and then you can consider it. Your friends will backstab, destroy, and undermine you in front of her in order to make themselves look good and you look bad.

 

[RangerMIke]

Group dates?

You are already overthinking this. You should just NOT hang out with this women because your frame is steaming pile right now.

Ask her out on a real date... she might shoot you down, if that happens you can put this behind you. I suspect the reason you would even consider a 'group date' is that your gut is telling you that she would turn you down.. just get it over with. It is better to KNOW for sure than live in regret or hang around hoping things get better.

Know this... a women knows within 10 seconds if you have a shot. Right now you are living Schrodinger's Cat thought experiment. The answer is there, but since you won't open the box you don't know what it is. Go get your answer.

 

[Tictac]

She just said she wants to go to the city with a gaggle of your friends. You're a acting like its a date with you. It's not. It's with a group.

It's not you she wants to go out with. It's an experience she wants to have.

Just go.

 

[The LadyKiller]

A lot of really good advice here, thanks. There are two reasons for my apprehension - not saying it's justified, but the reasons nonetheless:
1.) I didn't meet her at a bar or a night out. I was on the road for something work-related, she happened to be in the area and passed by. Outgoing person that I am, I struck up a conversation. Got her number and then went back to work.
2.) I've had a bizarre 2016 when it's come to women. I went on a date with a girl who thought this would help her chances with my friend (it didn't), I spent a few weeks with a girl who I found out with an ex-con shortly after we stopped seeing each other, and a girl who, not unlike the previously mentioned, was not who she seemed. My point is, my trust in reading women has now become shaky at best.

Know this... a women knows within 10 seconds if you have a shot. Right now you are living Schrodinger's Cat thought experiment. The answer is there, but since you won't open the box you don't know what it is. Go get your answer.

I looked up the Schrodinger's Cat experiment and it was interesting to read up on. You're right that the answer is already there, I just haven't opened the box. I guess the reason I was looking for a group outing is to get to know her in a more social setting and thus be able to get a better read.

 

[Tictac]

I guess the reason I was looking for a group outing is to get to know her in a more social setting and thus be able to get a better read.

This is a terrible idea that you made worse by involving two incompatible groups because you couldn't resist telling them and involving them.

Group dates are no way to 'get a better read' of a woman.

IF you recover from this, just ask her out for a drink.

 

[The LadyKiller]

This is a terrible idea that you made worse by involving two incompatible groups because you couldn't resist telling them and involving them.

Group dates are no way to 'get a better read' of a woman.

IF you recover from this, just ask her out for a drink.

Fortunately I haven't taken any action with the aforementioned plan, so I'm still riding a clean slate.

 

[Tictac]

Fortunately I haven't taken any action with the aforementioned plan, so I'm still riding a clean slate.

Of course you don't know her well. You haven't been out with her yet. That is the purpose of a first date.

And not by the way, you are way enough for her without anyone else in tow.

 

[BeExcellent]

Leverage the fact that her best pal knows you & likes you. Just ask her out. Go for a hike or go have a drink, something where you can chat and get acquainted. I'm a fan of an activity first. Do something together.

Purpose of a first date is to see if you want a second date. If she chats to her girlfriend the girlfriend will say "Oh you'll like LadyKiller, he's a cool guy" and that will happen in the background. So she will actually social proof you without you being there, which is a neat trick.

Then take her for drinks on a second date & escalate if appropriate. On the first date get to know each other. This builds repoire and context and connection for a second date.

A woman that pretty who is semi famous is used to all manner of cheesy come ons, men falling all over themselves and being pedestalized. Treat her like a normal person & take a genuine interest in who she is beneath the veneer. She will appreciate you if you can be real with her & allow her to be real with you.

 

[zinc4]

Just hang out one on one man....you definitely have her on a pedastel....take her to McDonald's or Netflix and chill if she isnt down....next....don't give her special treatment

 

[Yewki]

I met a small-time celebrity this week, who honestly is as close to a HB10 as I'm ever going to meet - not putting her on a pedestal, simply being realistic.

Might have believed you if not for the part in bold. You're in denial.

 

[marmel75]

This situation is doomed to failure due to you handling the situation like a b!tch.