Cardio-free diet??

[DrHouse]

Anyone see that book about avoiding any cardio and just lifting. They claim that cardio makes you more hungry and thus you overeat....any truth to this?I love my cardio....my stress reliever.

 

[Quiksilver]

That's just plain stupid.

That hunger means you get to eat MORE good food.

Also, don't overlook the heart and CNS benefits to cardio.

 

[Kev07]

Your heart and lungs are muscles too, don't forget about them

 

[EFFORT]

whos that book by

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Anyone see that book about avoiding any cardio and just lifting. They claim that cardio makes you more hungry and thus you overeat....any truth to this?I love my cardio....my stress reliever.

It sounds a bit suspect. Yeah, if you begin your cardio at a deficit of carbs to sustain the workout you could become hungry afterwards. The problem is that people in general tend to eat too fast and end up eating more than they need or even want because they don't recognize that "satisfied" feeling during the time they're wolfing down food.

Personally, I don't feel like eating much (if anything) after a good cardio workout. I can be on the bike for an hour and a half to five or six hours and can barely finish half of a sandwich afterwards. Now I do eat on the bike but it's only 100-150 calories an hour.

You know, check into whether the people who they say eat more are regularly active or not. I think it may be people who aren't use to regular cardio exercise who believe that their exertion would be satisfied by a ton of food.

 

[beastmaster79]

a weight workout helps your heart just as much as "cardio". cardio is for people who want to look like a marathon runner or for people who enjoy sport sinvolving cardio. i was really into cardio and it was not healthy.

if you lift weights a few times a week and eat little or no carbs you can be jacked.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Or you can keep up with the cardio and eat all the (complex) carbs that you want. I don't know, I bike with a few people who work out with weights a a few times a week but on a 3 hour ride they are usually huffing and puffing by the end of the first hour (not even 20 miles).

 

[DrHouse]

I don't know the author of the book but i saw the segment on "Good morning America" where Diane Sawyer had a personal trainer helping her work out....he came out and said that she (Diane Sawyer) lost more weight with just lifting compared to added cardio....so according to him "why waste your time with cardio which doesn't shed any weight.....and look at the cardio room in any gym....mostly overweight people sweating it out for what....nothing" I thought about it and said i kind of like the stress release that cardio gives me.....sort of balances out the lifting part.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

I don't know the author of the book but i saw the segment on "Good morning America" where Diane Sawyer had a personal trainer helping her work out....he came out and said that she (Diane Sawyer) lost more weight with just lifting compared to added cardio....so according to him "why waste your time with cardio which doesn't shed any weight.....and look at the cardio room in any gym....mostly overweight people sweating it out for what....nothing" I thought about it and said i kind of like the stress release that cardio gives me.....sort of balances out the lifting part.

Oh I'm saying not to lift. The benefit from lifting is that your body will continuously burn more calories to sustain the added muscle. I'd question the guy on "Good morning America" on what his diet was like. It's not a question about how much you eat either, what matters is what you eat.

The problem with the guys that I know who lift but don't do cardio regularly have little endurance. Yes, the can "muscle through" a workout but its funny to watch these guys who look very healthy almost cough up a lung after an aerobic workout. I also believe that their bodies are using a ton of energy just digesting the all the solid meats that they eat for protein.

One of the drawbacks to being very muscular is that muscle makes you weigh more and keeping it moving for a sustained amount of time takes a lot of effort. If your cardiovascular system isn't use to it, it's going to give you a hard time.

So I say do both. Just make sure that you keep your muscles fed after all your workouts and make sure that you don't start cannibalizing your muscles by not taking in enough carbs and good fats during sustained aerobic activity. Another thing is that cycling helps raise your lactic threshold. Having a higher one allows you to lift move and do more reps!

 

[mrRuckus]

a weight workout helps your heart just as much as "cardio". cardio is for people who want to look like a marathon runner or for people who enjoy sport sinvolving cardio. i was really into cardio and it was not healthy.

if you lift weights a few times a week and eat little or no carbs you can be jacked.

Yea?


Great results with no fitness

 

[EFFORT]

I actually met the guy that wrote that book. Him and his crew went over the whole thing with me. Basically the reason the people doing it get results is because of the diet he has you on. Your eating a very small amount of food everyday and the circuit training is pretty intense. Its very strict. The whole no cardio thing is also there for business, a lot of people don't like cardio so seeing something that says they can get results without cardio really entices them to buy it, when in reality if they just fixed there diet and did there cardio they would still lose the fat. This is also geared towards "normal" population people that aren't trying to build some muscular body.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

I actually met the guy that wrote that book. Him and his crew went over the whole thing with me. Basically the reason the people doing it get results is because of the diet he has you on. Your eating a very small amount of food everyday and the circuit training is pretty intense. Its very strict. The whole no cardio thing is also there for business, a lot of people don't like cardio so seeing something that says they can get results without cardio really entices them to buy it, when in reality if they just fixed there diet and did there cardio they would still lose the fat. This is also geared towards "normal" population people that aren't trying to build some muscular body.

Well that doesn't sound like any fun. No wonder they lose weight without any cardio, starvation typically has that effect on people.

 

[beastmaster79]

calories from carbs are not the same as calories from protein and fats. something about the insulin response from carbs makes them store as fat easier. lifting 2 or 3 times a week and dieting properly can get you very cut. a low carb diet doesn't have to be a low calorie diet to work. if you eat the same amount of calories but avoid sugar and most carbs you're on the right track. also eating small frequent meals helps a lot too. 6-8 meals a day. do all these things and you will not need any cardio to get cut.

most cardio will result in overuse injuries. the same can be said of lifting too much. most people who exercise overtrain rather than undertrain. if you get you're diet under control then you don't have to kill yourself with exercise. exercising simply to allow for gluttony is not healthy either.

once you achieve a desired physique you can loosen up you restrictions a bit.

 

[EFFORT]

Well that doesn't sound like any fun. No wonder they lose weight without any cardio, starvation typically has that effect on people.

i agree. I don't think many people would even be able to do it without hiring him or his trainers. If there not able to eat 6 basic healthy meals a day without someone checking up on them how on earth are they going to be able to follow some strict starvation diet without someone checking up on them making sure there doing it.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

i agree. I don't think many people would even be able to do it without hiring him or his trainers. If there not able to eat 6 basic healthy meals a day without someone checking up on them how on earth are they going to be able to follow some strict starvation diet without someone checking up on them making sure there doing it.

I'm curious how long do those people keep off the weight. Many times they are the ones most susceptible to yo-yo dieting.

 

[mrRuckus]

I'm curious how long do those people keep off the weight. Many times they are the ones most susceptible to yo-yo dieting.

After they run their metabolism into the ground with a low calorie diet and go back to their normal eating habits, they probably gain 10 lbs

 

[beastmaster79]

yea i tried low calorie diets and it just makes you really hungry and then you cheat and binge. its a terrible way to loose weight.

sorry for being so blunt about the cardio. ive experimented with a lot of exercise regimes and ive found long bouts of cardio to be inefficient compared to weight training in terms of improving body composition. i did enjoy the runners high though. i know too many people who have been injured from it though.

 

[Throttle]

it's pretty simple, really. the only people i know who have changed the overall shape of their body made significant, permanent lifestyle changes on both the diet & exercise side. the specifics of those changes matter much less than their magnitude & sustainability.