"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Can't Seal the Deal on the First Date when She Drives There

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PepperSpray

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I'm on a vicious cold streak. In 2012, I've gone 1/15 on POF first dates. Only 1 bang and no second dates (I don't bother asking them out on second dates, and they never initiate contact with me afterwards).

I always ask girls to meet me at a pub that's a 2 minute walk from my place.

Of the 15 first dates, I only managed to bring 4 girls back to my pad. 1 girl I banged, 1 girl I managed to get into bed though no clothes came off, 1 refused to go any further than a kiss, and 1 refused any physical escalation.

Of all my online first date bangs in past years, the one commonality I've noticed is none of the girls drove to the pub (including the one I banged this year). But girls who are driving will refuse to have more than one drink, and instead of coming back to my place most will simply just walk back to their car.

I feel like girls driving is a logistical hurdle I can't overcome. Are there players who've had success with banging girls who drive on the first date from online? How do I get over this?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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pinkfl

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No, its that you never call for a second date, and you expect sex right away and it shows. Has absolutely nothing to do with who drives and everything to do with the fact that you have a lot to learn.
 
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Fly By Night

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You've rationalized your failures by blaming a fact that has nothing to do with the problem at hand. You're just making excuses. That's like saying if I take a cab to a club, I don't want to have sex with any women there. I think we need more info on what you are doing during these dates. And yes, we normally wait for the woman to text saying she had a great time, but if she doesn't, just wait a few days then plan another date. I'm sure you would have had higher numbers simply by pushing your ego to the side and confidently persisting.

Show a little bit more ambition than that.
 
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incognito42

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Yes. I usually wait til I walk her to her car, then I go for the first kiss, and then tell them to come over and watch a movie. If there into the date an into the kiss it's pretty simple after that

Good luck out there! Don't let pof chicks discourage you, they're only good for one thing anyways ;)
 
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